Certification

Diesel65

Can anyone tell me what certification is required to be able to weld structual steel here in Florida ?

I have searched on this subject but can find no specialty State licensing or anything.

Plenty of certification required for pipe and such but not structual, a lot of my customers need to have steel placed for new roof curbs and I have the equipment and skill's to do it and am thinking of offering it as part of my scope.

I have done a few over the years at the request of the customer, but would like to stay on the right side of the law, so to speak.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

JasontheMason

Around here the big welding companys will usally do it, they have people working for them that will do it. A friend of mine went to one and got cirtified thought them, the state does the program though them.

So I would try going to welding shops and asking around that might be your best bet.

Diesel65

Thanks Jason, I asked at a local Fab company and they could not help me.
I am going down south tomorrow and will stop in at a large steel erection company I know off and ask them.
Thanks again.

JasontheMason

yup any time

Kingfisher

Did you ever find the answer to this question?

Diesel65

No I never found an answer exactly, so I took a welding class at the local college, and got certified through them.

I have not ever been questioned on the job site and have only done a few curb steels, nothing structual.

There does not seem to be a welding (State license) that I can find anywhere, I believe it falls under structual steel.

I am afraid I have been a little lazy and not pursued it because of the fact I have not done any more for a while and probably will not look into it again until I bid another job that requires curb steel, luckily for me I have been too busy.

Sorry I could not be of more help, but when I get a definate answer I will post it here.

Weldingsoftware

There are many differing state laws regarding welding. Many states may just reference codes that already exist in industry such as AWS D1.1 "Structural Welding Code-Steel".

This code addresses the requirements for welder and procedure qualification and documentation. An individual contractor has the responsibility for qualification and certification of their welders. No third party involvement is required by the code however individual contracts may modify the requirememnts for certification/qualification of welders. Tbe engineer on the project may have different requirements.

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TMG1

Not sure if you need one, but got a link for a welding school in FL. they would definitely know so you may want to just give them a call.

http://tulsawelding.school-info.net/...FQOjFQodNA2R5w

pyroracing85

AWS is in miami florida

zookies

There are scads of certification for welding boilerpipe and pressure vessel (ASME) but structural might not have specific requirements. In the boiler trades and pressure welding, contractors and manufacturers have insurance and 'bonding' for lack of a better term through large insurance companies like HSB (Hartford Steam Boiler) or One Beacon, and sometimes use a independent rep of the insurance for inspections on a good deal of the work.

These requirements, while covered under state regulation, are pretty uniform throughout the fifty states, because there are not many insurance companies to stand behind steam and refrigeration construction (the two main pressure categories) and the states all mimic the same general licensing and regulation to make sure producers are insured and competent.

Some cities even get in the act, and specify things related to pressure relief systems in case of fire and such. Most closed pressure bearing systems have a way to blow off the steam or refrigerant in case of fire.

In the case of structural, no doubt contractors would suffer a huge liability of a steel roof fell on their tenants. So I have to believe that there must be some guidelines in the structural steel erection industry where welded joints could lead to structural failure. A large contractor would hold insurance policies against those failures, and the insurance company would have an interest in their customer using a level of competence that did not place their policies at an undue risk of payout. I just don't know how the insurance companies handle this in the case of structural.

There was a building in New York City I recall that had a wind shear risk, and a huge amount of post construction welding went into shoring up the structural integrity, I don't remember the details, but with the liabilities of structural engineering, architecture, the construction company, and the insurers, I would wonder how that all worked out.

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Michaeljp86

Most certifications for welding are done on american welding society standards. Find a local college that has welding classes. I have a welders certification I got through the college. They classes I took are done by AWS standards.

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jw macaw

for structural welding certification, go to the building dept. in your nearest city. in n.y.c. the sanitation dept. monitors and bends the samples of the test on the dept. of buildings behalf.

MLScott&Sons

we have an instructor from a local tech school come to us and test our guys. He also has a nice setup for testing at his home. Not cheap but really convenient

MasterBuilt

Here in Nevada, structural steel welding is required by the building department to be done by an AWS Cerified welder. Fab shops are usually "Approved Fabricators" which eliminates the need for in shop welding inspections but still require field inspections by a licensed QC or quality control firm. Welding certification falls into different processes ie. GMAW (Gas Metal Arc Welding) SMAW (Sheilded metal Arc Welding) etc. Then those processes are broken down into different position certifications. For example a basic certification would be for welding in a flat position. A certification that would allow you to weld any connection in any position would be a 6GR. When you take that test, you prepare a piece of round pipe and weld ito a flat plate (the R or restriction ring) in the 6GR test. The pipe and plate is fixed in a stand and you weld in all positions, flat, vertical, and overhead as you move around the pipe. The test piece is then x-rayed and then cut in half and you will fail if any inclusions are detected or you dont acheive complete penetration.

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