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Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
It seems i see a christmas tree on top of the structural steel as its going up, is this for good luck? whats the story behind it?
this is from a job i worked on recently.
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Curmudgeon
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
It comes from us carpenters.
"My Builder Says We'll Be "Wetting the Bush" Next Week. What Does This Mean? This is a great first celebration for your new home. There is an Old English (and New England) tradition called "wetting the bush" which happens when the roof is framed. An evergreen (an ancient symbol of life) is nailed up to the roof frame and libations (usually alcoholic) are imbibed with toasts to the future health and happiness in the new home, etc. The Owner is expected to bring the beverage (of high quality) to share with the building crew. Enjoy! This is a great first celebration for your new home." We talked about it here: http://www.contractortalk.com/showth...t=wetting+bush Ironworkers "adopted" it as part of the topping out ceremony. It's all good luck! ![]() ![]()
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
It's a union thing, no questions, and don't mention it again.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
Is it because this pix you took ....was a week before Dec 25 (X-mas day)?... where everyone's spirit is... looking toward a big holiday/family celebration/reunion?
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When I was coming up, we used to learn from the old hands, both skills and traditions, and there was respect for tradition...and age. Now-a-days it seems like if you're old you are just stupid and behind the times. Move over and get out of the way! Somehow it doesn't feel like things are really improving as a result.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
Hi guys just found this thread Neolitic as usual has it 100% right in England we call it the "topping out party".It's a tradition that's very much in use here in Germany.About 95% of new building still keep this tradition.the tree is nailed to the highest part of the building and the Carpenter climbs to the ridge with a bottle of snaps and toasts the health of the new HO's and then every trade that has worked on the building a proses that could easily involve 10 shots from the bottle the Carpenter then throws the glass from the roof and if it breaks every body looks on this as a sign of good luck for the new house.Food and drink is then supplied to any one that worked or helped on the building of the new home.Sadly I don't think you see a lot of it in England but it is very much alive here have fun.Billy
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree? Hooray for the Krauts!![]()
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
When I got into the trades doing timber framing this was a tradition once the frame was raised. Billy D has it, it comes from Germany, and is an OLD tradition, (Pre-Christian). I understood that it was a sacrifice to the tree gods for allowing you to use their trees for your home.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
The actual term "christmas tree" has nothing to do with the actual tree at all. When you put a tree on the last beam its called "topping out" and the tree is supposedly thanking nature for the resources made availible. Christmas Tree means you are sending up more then one structual member at a time with your crane. At least thats how we use those 2 terms around hereanyway, it wouldnt surprise me if it was diffrent somewhere.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
Im from the NY/NJ/PA area. Sorry about that i didnt know it wasnt in my profile.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
I worked Hi Risers for Years. Last beam is sometimes painted white.
A christmas tree is topping off celebration. Nice lunch ,and the suits are there. |
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?
i recollect someone talking about this before, not on the the boards but on a documentary about iron workers. if memory serves correct the tree is set at the top of the building as a tribute to the families of workers who have either died or been injured on the job
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?Quote:
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It really has nothing to do with unions - but rather craftsmen as a whole.
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Re: Can Any Ironworkers Explain The Christmas Tree?Quote:
Another theory is that the tradition is a symbol of growth.
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