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11-07-2008, 11:16 PM
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New Guy
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Vertical portion of plans
Finally got a major development to bid on. PM sent over plans and told me he wants a proposal for reviewing the vertical portion of the plans.
huh! I thought vertical portion meant buildings...any ideas.
Done site work and commercial construction for many years but never heard of 'vertical portion' of plans.
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11-08-2008, 01:16 AM
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Super B
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Sounds like the PM is a rookie. Ask him if he is refering to the elevations or the isometrics. 
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11-08-2008, 07:59 AM
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Maybe he's talking topo?
Cut and fill? Site work?
You're gonna have to
ask for an English translation. 
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11-08-2008, 11:20 AM
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When you go to discuss the plans take them off the table and put them on the wall. Now they're vertical.
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11-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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Vertical = "Height" = High School terminology. 
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11-08-2008, 05:23 PM
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I am sure we all know what vertical means, but that is not the normal terminology used in construction.
Elevation!
Elevations!
Section View!
Section Views!
Read this page of the
The Project Resource Manual
By Michael J. Crosbie, Construction Specifications Institute, Construction Specifications Institute
at Google Books. Construction Documents chapter.
http://books.google.com/books?id=nGP...sult#PPT270,M1
If someone were to ask me about a vertical portion of my plans. I may look at them funny, but would then ask them what elevation that want or what section view they want.
Last edited by Kgmz; 11-08-2008 at 05:31 PM.
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11-08-2008, 05:56 PM
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Hay SDG why not be straight with the guy and say WTF are you talking about.I've seen to many 'F' up's on a job just because one guy wouldn't ask a salient question and was afraid of looking dumb.Don't forget this is your money on the line.Kgmz you missed one out 'cross sectional elevation' but how this relates to vertical portion of the plans I don't know.
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11-08-2008, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billy d
Kgmz you missed one out 'cross sectional elevation'
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Cross sectional elevation is a "Section View" or very rarely know as "Cross Section View". But I have never seen it worded on a plan as Cross Section View, only as Section View.
You know if you look at a plan normally at horizontal, and you see where the section views cuts through the plan by the marks like A-A, B-B, C-C, D-D, etc. Then you go to the pages of sections and look for the view you want of the plan like the A-A section, etc.
Last edited by Kgmz; 11-08-2008 at 06:15 PM.
Reason: more typo's
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11-08-2008, 06:24 PM
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Thank you for the enlightenment sir same thing different name terminology I suppose.
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11-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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Another tip for everyone related to plans or engineered drawings.
A section view of something underground like a drain pipes, sewer lines, etc. is called a profile. But if it relates to something above the ground or on the ground like pavement, ground contours, ponds, ditches, etc. then it is still called a section view. Or it can be a combo drawing with a road section view, showing a pipe profile under the road.
Last edited by Kgmz; 11-08-2008 at 06:37 PM.
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11-08-2008, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kgmz
Another tip for everyone related to plans or engineered drawings.
A section view of something underground like a drain pipes, sewer lines, etc. is called a profile. But if it relates to something above the ground or on the ground like pavement, ground contours, ponds, ditches, etc. then it is still called a section view. Or it can be a combo drawing with a road section view, showing a pipe profile under the road.
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Another thing that some guys really have a hard time with is how the building elevations (not the elevations in the context of the A-2XX sheets, but the actual heights of things) is based on the first floor being 100'00", in feet and inches, and then everything outside the building is based on Above-Sea-Level and in tenths. I can't even tell you how many times I've had to teach this to site work guys, mostly those that come from a residentual background and are just getting into commercial work.
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11-10-2008, 04:37 PM
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vertial portion solved
Thanks all for the responses. I took the advice and approached directly, what sections is he looking at exactly. Turns out he meant the section views for the site work, not the elevations, buildings etc.
A simple Section C1 through C12 would sufficed.
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11-10-2008, 04:38 PM
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New Guy
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Thanks all for the responses. I took the advice and approached directly, what sections is he looking at exactly. Turns out he meant the section views for the site work, not the elevations, buildings etc.
A simple Section C1 through C12 would sufficed.
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11-10-2008, 04:38 PM
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New Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billy d
Hay SDG why not be straight with the guy and say WTF are you talking about.I've seen to many 'F' up's on a job just because one guy wouldn't ask a salient question and was afraid of looking dumb.Don't forget this is your money on the line.Kgmz you missed one out 'cross sectional elevation' but how this relates to vertical portion of the plans I don't know.
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Thanks all for the responses. I took the advice and approached directly, what sections is he looking at exactly. Turns out he meant the section views for the site work, not the elevations, buildings etc.
A simple Section C1 through C12 would sufficed.
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11-10-2008, 05:00 PM
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Bunny by Malco - NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDG
A simple Section C1 through C12 would sufficed.
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So, you are working on the civil sets as opposed to the S's, A's, M's or L's
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11-10-2008, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kgmz
Cross sectional elevation is a "Section View" or very rarely know as "Cross Section View". But I have never seen it worded on a plan as Cross Section View, only as Section View.
You know if you look at a plan normally at horizontal, and you see where the section views cuts through the plan by the marks like A-A, B-B, C-C, D-D, etc. Then you go to the pages of sections and look for the view you want of the plan like the A-A section, etc.
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Also referred to by some architects as "building sections", point being that the variations in terminology are endless, just ask.
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