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09-29-2008, 01:31 PM
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Door installition
Hello
I have a project coming up its a hotel commercial building and i have to install all the doors in it and its in Pennsylvania , can you guys tell me what are the going prices right now. like per door or per piece such as door handles and stuff like that.
Thanks a lot
David V.
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09-29-2008, 01:40 PM
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Curmudgeon
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#hours X how much you need to make
+ material X mark-up + O/H + profit =
going price.
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09-29-2008, 06:49 PM
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Sean
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$1.95 a pound - some of them are really heavy.
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09-29-2008, 08:07 PM
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Motorboatin' son of a ...
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A million pesos
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09-29-2008, 08:46 PM
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There are no "going prices" for door installations. They are based on the actual costs involved, which are relative to each company or individual and the particular project-specifics:
1.) Amount of work involved in removing the existing door and it's components.
2.) Your overhead: insurances, taxes, cost to operate your specific business.
3.) Gas usage.
4.) Cost of door and related parts, if you are providing that + 20 percent markup.
5.) Logistics
6.) Supply & Demand (are you busy or slow?/ is it a hard to find the item(s)? and ship?).
7.) Established relationship, or non-established relationship with the client. You need them? or...they need you more?
8.) Amount of interior and/or exterior alterations required.
9.) Disposal of old door and components included?
10.) Amount of time spent on administrative aspects of the job.
11.) Expedient installation (Emergency) or scheduled work?
12.) After hours or normal working hours?
13.) Does the job require a certified or licensed person/Co. to do the work? Is a permit required?
14.) Are you in competition with others/ Job-bidding situation?
15.) Flooring alterations required?
16.) Type of installation?
17.) Special order door, or door parts?
18.) Pick up or supplied door?
19.) Single door, or one of several (or more), to be installed as a "potential" package, or multi-install deal?
20.) Etc, etc, etc....
When will you guys learn that there is no "going rate" for such things. If you do not understand this, please review the 20 points I listed that affect "your" pricing...and there are more....
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09-29-2008, 11:12 PM
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TheTrimDude
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I have hung around 35 to 40 thousand doors in the past 15 years.And i can give a price before i start.But your list is true sometimes, with the problems that can occur...
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09-29-2008, 11:30 PM
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TheTrimDude
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Im new and just saw the top/first post  Are they metal frame ,metal doors,or wood pre hung units? Alot of price difference.Do you have a code to meet (inspection) on the doors?More work,alot more screws needed.Door closers to install and dead bolts? It all adds up.....I would give a price for the doors first and get paid in full.And then get the hardware money last..Also sometimes builders like to use temp locks until the job is done,that means you may have to change all the locks again at the end of the job.The reason is workers damage the good ones sometimes in the construction phase and its best to wait until the end of the job for the best working and looking hardware.
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09-29-2008, 11:59 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Gets harder to price not
knowing what kind of door,
or jamb, or wall, or what
freaking country he's
even in?
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Last edited by neolitic; 10-05-2008 at 10:10 PM.
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09-30-2008, 12:02 AM
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Handle It!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTrimDude
I have hung around 35 to 40 thousand doors in the past 15 years.And i can give a price before i start.But your list is true sometimes, with the problems that can occur...
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That is a bit above 1 door per hour of every working hour of every work day, M-F, 7-3, 52 week a year, for 15 years. I believe that your estimation is a bit........
But anyhow.....
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09-30-2008, 12:21 AM
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TheTrimDude
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I have the high rise list of builders if you would like to call them.I would hang 30 doors before lunch break and 30 to 40 more after lunch.....I started at 6 a.m and took lunch at 12 so i guess thats 5 doors per hour....I also had to run crown molding and baseboard and bathroom hardware and many other things in the 15 years...I still do this work but have slowed down just a bit....
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09-30-2008, 01:00 AM
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Registered User
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door installition
hello jason can you please like give me the prices like how much will it cost to hank the interior doors that you walk in a room(in a hotel) and the closet and bathroom doors , and exterior door the metal ones
thanks a lot
David V
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09-30-2008, 01:23 AM
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TheTrimDude
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Its kinda hard but i will try and tell you what i would do ....Most builders have a budget for the job and they know just how much they have in it..Ask them what they have in the budget,and they may tell you something close.My father was a project manager for marriot corp. and he taught me alot over the years..And i also sub contracted alot of the work on the projects.If you under bid it by alot,they will know you dont know what the hell you are doing .Sometimes they like the high bidders.I would ask them how much is in each room , a go from there,add up how many units /rooms in the hotel and think of the labor you may pay out per day to help. And think how many rooms can you finish in a day ,if its $300 per room and you can do 4 rooms per day then you made $1200 dollars for the day... Goodluck,its hard without looking at the job....
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09-30-2008, 02:10 AM
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TheTrimDude
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Also there are construction estamateing books and c.d. disk with per door prices....Its hard sometimes to use these and win the bids,i have tried to go with the prices in the books on some big casino jobs and didnt get the bids,they said i was to high..... Sometimes it works best to just ask the project or job forman how much is in the budget and think if you can really do it for that ,or maybe hes on crack  and move on to the next job. Lowes installation price for single prehung ext.door $258.00 home depot single ext. door $258.00 double door $458.00....Thats the price in my town....
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10-01-2008, 12:25 PM
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thank a lot
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10-02-2008, 10:28 PM
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I charge 500 per exterior door and 250 interior doesnt matter what frame or door ( commercial) closers, locksets, kickplates, weather strip, threshhold, door sweep, any type of hinges continuouse or butt. Hotells usually have electric strikes but 500 is still a good competitive price. The only time i charge more is when its a lead door in a hospital x ray room and the door costs and wieghts more than my truck.
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10-05-2008, 09:44 PM
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TheTrimDude
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Thats great if you can get that price.But at 250 for a interior door no one in my area would pay that,and you make no money....At the most its 1 dollar a square ft. interior trim,and price includes hang all doors,install baseboard,and window sills and aprons.Install locks also... Crown mold and chair rail priced by the ln ft. about 2 per ft. to install....
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10-05-2008, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheTrimDude
I have the high rise list of builders if you would like to call them.I would hang 30 doors before lunch break and 30 to 40 more after lunch.....I started at 6 a.m and took lunch at 12 so i guess thats 5 doors per hour....I also had to run crown molding and baseboard and bathroom hardware and many other things in the 15 years...I still do this work but have slowed down just a bit....
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A door every 12 mins?  Wow your good! How do you move your tools from opening to opening so quickly? Does that include hardware? How many elves were helping you?
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10-05-2008, 11:55 PM
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TheTrimDude
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Just 2 of us do the work , myself and my helper.... These are interior split jam units.We trim out all the inside of the units on the floor monday to friday-- doors, base ,and windows.And on sat. we hang the entrance doors for that floor ...The buildings are in florida.All the same 15 story structures,condos...... You install the hardware at the end of the job... I only use a nail gun and a level..My helper breaks the doors down and gets them in place by the opeining and checks for nails that may need to be set.....It really only takes about 3 min. per door.
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10-07-2008, 05:55 PM
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I thought we were talking about commercial doors. not interior trim and prehung doors. Im talking about mortising, drill and tapping, closers, coordinators, mortise body locksets, kick plates electronic strikes. Apples and oranges to residential doors and frames, that I think trim dude is talking about. And if it is a wood frame interior door you usually dont get prehungs. Just a pile of 1by .... prehungs in commercial would be special order right? Because 3 5/8 studs instead of 3 1/2 , 5/8 board instead of 1/2 inch the throat size is 4 7/8 instead of 4 1/2 inch jambs. Yep 250 for a interior commercial door. That means to mill and rabbet and mortise and put stop on a jamb and mortise hinges for a 1 3/4 door and hang it. Install commercial hardware completly different than residential! . Set screws, spring cages, sex bolts, through bolts and castle nuts, kick plates and strike plates yep 250 is a good price. I charge 75 for a pre hung hang and case both sides
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10-07-2008, 05:58 PM
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residential, multi family (condos), commercial
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