Schwing P88

joasis

I am new to the line pump experience, and as such, it would be helpful to know if anyone else has experience with this pump, or similar.

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NJ Brickie

I have used a similar pump many times. If I can answer any questions for you I would be happy to help. I almost always have used the pump for grouting block but I have used it to pump concrete into forms a few times.

joasis

So what is the most cost effective, never fails, primer to use?

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NJ Brickie

Never fail.... if you find one let me know. We use a product similar to the slick paks. I can't think of the name right now. It is a powder that you mix with water. Most of the time it works great but on those super hot days or long periods of time between trucks it will clog up at times. We used diesel fuel in the past but those days are long gone with the EPA and concrete being tested all the time now. To mix the packets we just fill the hopper with water, add the packets, and run the pump in reverse. The model pump we have is a schwing SP305.

many names

Long ago we used bags of massonary powder,mixing in the hopper.Today slick pak,mud slide seems to work very good.It looks like snot (really) and some finishers hate it,makes the initial mud very sticky/slimy.Once you learn how to use not bad,that ball valve usually has a sweeter mix than bigger pumps.

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joasis

I bought a bucket of the slick pacs from Con Forms, and it works great.

I am looking at a Schwing 305 just because now.....

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NJ Brickie

The 305 is a good pump. It has been durable. Seems to pop fuses now and again though, so keep some on hand.

many names

I am new to the line pump experience, and as such, it would be helpful to know if anyone else has experience with this pump, or similar.

With 30 some odd years would that count? Everything from line pumps to 58m booms.Have done 1500' up/down hill,5000 plus matt pours,even pumped some at the Ronald Regan library (DC) with a 8000 schwing electric/42m placing boom.I am extremly anal to safety/can do attitude.I really like this site as a tool to help others,I firmly believe in the kiss principle and simplicity.

I can only offer advice to concrete pumping and wall/flatwork.All of us have been had from time to time,that's knowledge.

joasis

And we are very glad to have you. There is no substitute for experience, and a positive, can do attitude.

I won't tell this on http://www.concretepumping.com/index...ct=forum&fid=8 but when I got the P88, I did not get any primer stuff, and the guy I bought it from said to use masonry cement. And I forgot that also.

So, I whistled up 4 yards of 6 sack mix to do the piers at my new home, T200 Bobcat with concrete bucket in case anything went wrong, and the truck shows up.....I have him add water to get a 7 inch or so slump...and load the machine hopper and start pumping (primed with water )...and promptly blew a hose end completely off!

So I cleaned up the mess, had the kid with me wash out the plugged hoses (we had lots of water available), and I fired up the Bobcat and filled the piers.

By the next job, I had the priming thing figured out, and all went perfectly well....the second job was even smoother. Now, I am looking forward to getting a real pump, if that day comes.

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many names

Thanks,glad it only took once.I learned over the phone,long distance.The short of it was a whiteman swing tube,100' to straight leg,375' straight up,then over the face of dam.The year? 1976 in a remote valley in central Wyo.I think I made every mistake in the book,some were so much fun I did it more than once.

If I can prevent just one injury I can rest at night.

ericicf

Joasis : I noticed you signed on at CPA.com, so I thought I'd sign on
over here at yours.
We've been doing ICF's for 10 years now.
Did the P88 thing same as you lol.

Best thing we ever did was buy an older boom pump.
We boom our walls, and boom or line our floors.

Our Morgen 25 line pump sits and watches :-)

joasis

Welcome Eric!

I noticed a Morgan Pump on a Ford chassis on eBay right now....32 meter boom....I can already feel the palpitations.

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ericicf

Jo : leave the Morgen be...money pit. sell the P88.
Look for an older Putzmeister 32. 1985 to 1989
Parts and Service are excellent, and the machines are
well engineered and tough.
Budget for some fit up work :-)
They can be had for $45K about, maybe less.
A new 305 is probably the same money.

Big Ed in Tenn has one for sale...he has pumped very little with it
and fixed it up a lot. I think it's on Don Carlson's site. concretepumpbroker.com At CPA.com there are at least 4 guys who know
those machines inside out and upside down, so you will benefit
big time from their experience.

If you go to CPA.com sign in on the "Archives" section and search
Putz 32 or ICF's..priming....lots of great info to be had :-)

We have an older 1985 28 m Putz, and it has proved to be indispensible for all we do. We can line pump off the back-end or boom pump,footings , walls, floors.

I have some Buildblock questions...we are Nudura guys.
A potential customer wants BB as they are wanting to become
a dealer.
How can I get your ph no ? and what is your time zone ?

ericicf

Cripes Jo..that Morgen on ebay does look good...........
and there is a 305 with no reserve on there also :-)

I should temper my comments before i spout. lol

Morgen parts are available only thru Minn Par, as Morgen
went under 10 yrs ago or so.Takes a lot of time to get
bits and pieces from them.
The 305 is actually a Reinert Pump made in the US for Schwing.