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04-23-2009, 06:43 AM
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Kitchen sink area cold/hot area. Insulate under sink?
Edit: I originally posted this without an introduction, and, well I found this place can be a bit unforgiving for newbies. Anyway, I should have prefaced the question with: Hello, I'm entering the field of weatherization and energy retrofitting and I'm doing a practice audit for a client to get some practical in the field experience...
here's my question..
Client has a kitchen with a window bay at the sink area. On the outside of the home, this area is exposed on all sides as wood (home is brick). I believe that perhaps the insulation in this extruded area is insufficient.
The client indicates that when standing at her sink, the area all around her is much colder/hotter than the rest of the kitchen. She says there is cold/hot air coming from the cabinet under the sink. There is a dishwasher to the left of the sink.
Looking for comments on my suggestions below:
1) Apply Spray foam or denim batts to the rear wall of the sink cabinet. Can this be left open or should we cover the insulation with a piece of luan or plywood?
2) Remove dishwasher and apply spray foam to the cavity and wall behind dishwasher.
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04-23-2009, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vestaviascott
Client has a kitchen with a extruded wall window bay at the sink area. On the outside of the home, this area is exposed on all sides as wood (home is brick). I believe that perhaps the insulation in this extruded area is insufficient.........
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Extruded aluminum?
Extruded vinyl?
Extruded foam?
What?????
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04-23-2009, 07:09 AM
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Wood with wood siding. See attachment below...
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04-23-2009, 04:24 PM
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Here is a pic of the bay window extrusion
Pic is attached below...
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04-23-2009, 04:33 PM
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Your speciality is listed as INSULATION AND WEATHERIZATION, you should be telling us how to handle this situation. G
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04-23-2009, 08:20 PM
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It is a protrusion, a
bump out, a bay, but it is
not an extrusion.
It is not extruded.
I have the same question as Gene.
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04-24-2009, 08:30 AM
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I have subcontractors that do the work. I manage the client relationship. Just trying to get an understanding of what to expect.
Thanks for the help.
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04-24-2009, 11:08 AM
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Hmmm...Something smells rotten in Denmark...
About now you're wondering why we're busting your balls...
The math is not adding up though. As was asked, how can you sell/specify "energy retrofit" work without knowing what you're doing?
If it were me, I'd punch a hole through the back of the cabinet into the window bay (assuming the cabinet doesn't step into this space) and fill it completely up with blown cellulose.
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04-26-2009, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
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If it were me, I'd punch a hole through the back of the cabinet into the window bay (assuming the cabinet doesn't step into this space) and fill it completely up with blown cellulose.
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Thanks ChrWright, that's actually helpful information. Yes, I'm just beginning in this field so I'm sure I don't have the terms down (extrusion vs bay, etc) and yes you're busting my balls, right of passage I suppose.
I'm doing practice audits while awaiting my slot for Resnet HERS rater training.
I guess you have to already know the answers before asking for help here?
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04-26-2009, 04:21 PM
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Thanks ChrWright, that's actually helpful information. Yes, I'm just beginning in this field so I'm sure I don't have the terms down (extrusion vs bay, etc) and yes you're busting my balls, right of passage I suppose.
I'm doing practice audits while awaiting my slot for Resnet HERS rater training.
I guess you have to already know the answers before asking for help here?
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04-26-2009, 09:00 PM
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True that...
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04-26-2009, 09:01 PM
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I see. You guys are obviously way too smart for the likes of my kind...
Mod, please delete my account. Way too sensitive a group in this this thread for my tastes...
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04-26-2009, 09:02 PM
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Lighten up Francis... If you're going to deal with contractors for a living, you'll need thicker skin that that... 
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