Your Billable Hourly Rate

mahlere

it's funny, but human nature is pretty consistent...that's all it is...we can lie to ourselves better than we realize...

vandyandsons

[quote=Wolfgang;566082]Man did this thread take a downwards turn.

you got that right, i was just curious what other painters in other markets have to charge per man-hour.

sorry fellas, i should have specified painters.

WisePainter

[quote=vandyandsons;566208]You shouldn't have to specify bro, the title of this forum should suffice.

Last time I checked it said Painting & Finish Work.
Oh hey! It still does!



Like I said before, I am "striving" for $35.00 per man hour.
If anyone has any advice on how to get more in the KC area I am all ears!

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steel baron usa

$ 48.00 per hour in Cincinnati, oh

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vandyandsons

yeah wise,

us burger flippers don't go lousing up their forums, why are they bogarting ours?

i guess some just need to exercise their superiority complexes from time to time and us unskilled trades are easy targets.

the wetbacks will get their proverbial foot in the door in the licensed and skilled trades soon enough and we'll see if they are getting their $150/hr then.

Celtic

There are some members who actual pay little attention to what particular forum area a thread is started in....the site is "CONTRACTOR TALK"...the super secret painters only area is http://www.painttalk.com/

What I don't understand is why some of the posters in this thread have such a low opinion of themselves, their abilities and their trade?

It's not about others projecting their "superiority" over "unskilled...targets".

I simply cannot see how a painter in Cincinnati, OH can be at $48/hr [median income $29,554] ...
while a painter in Chatham, NJ is at $50/hr[median income $101,991]
The disparity between medians is almost 4-fold, yet the rate is essentially the same.


The average home in Cincinnati, OH is $100k, while in Chatham, NJ it is at $941,156 [starting prices do hover at about $500k and sometimes lower in Chatham, NJ].

This particular home


I do not know the area of OH, but I am quite familiar with the Chatham area and the surrounding high priced towns of Millburn, Short Hills, Summit, etc. These towns are all deep 6 figure towns and 7 figures is not an anomaly.

Surely this difference in home price would allow the NJ painter to charge significantly more than the OH painter, right?

Why not?

The illegals are doing electrical work here as was stated previously....and yet, the legal EC still commands the high dollar.
Why is that?
Cannot that same line of thought be applied to the painter's trade?

If the main issue is the illegals, does this imply Cinn., OH has no illegals and can therefore command a similar rate as the Chatham area that is overrun with illegals?

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MMC73

"2 F*ucks in a Truck"...Wise Painter you must have driven around South Philly recently.
We are over run with them and the HO does not care if the folks are licensed or insured. Once a year I check my prices by bidding projects in my home; last year had two guys show up with a ladder and some rollers, via public transportation asking where the paint was. I have not done that since as it gave me a tremendous amount of confidence regarding the competition.

1mancrew

There are illegals here as well (Cincinnati). I was asked to hire one yesterday by a family member at a Christmas gathering for my father that's in a nursing home. When I stated that I don't work with illegals...kind of got a strange look...lol

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Burby

As celtic stated, this is Contractor talk, individual sub forums for specific talk or problems needing answers. That is why I assume all new post come to one page, "Todays post", this way any who reads them can offer info, opinions, or just keep up with what others may have to offer.
But at the end of the day, we are all suppose to be Contractors, trying to operate a profitable business. And because of the variety of people & locations on here, one can learn so much from within a trade to all trades and making what a business should make, good money.

In the post i have read on here, some offer some valuable info, just about all can use and if new to business, even more so valuable. Some things that took some of us so many years to learn, because years ago we did have forums as this for info & learning.

No matter is some say so or not, I am sure some here, now have working, proven ideas on how to earn more or better operate their business, as well as now may have dreams on stepping up into a better market.

Each person here can & does contribute to others, in a positive way, it teaches them things to do for more profit to things not to do to remain in business.

All I have read on here makes it a great forum.

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hoya

Nice battleground. LOL


Kentucky 35-40.00 per man hour plus material.


LOL---I have a brick entrance to my hood------my white sweetshirt has no collar------



Everyone put there shoes and socks on the same way. Some people can afford to have some one do it for them!!!!!!

Qoute: Me

WisePainter

Oh, I see.
Maybe I should PM the address to a few other Painter only sites just because a couple of trolls are bored and need to cause trouble for others here.
I ain't leaving pal, they can.





Who says just because we as painters aren't able to break a certain National price average that we have low self esteem?
I am quite proud of my trade, my heritage, and my genetic predisposition.

It was more than obvious that Mr. Electrician was doing nothing more than trolling and taking some sort of pleasure from his efforts.
This is not the only forum I am a member at and I am a Moderator at a few more. I have seen it a number of times and have banned people for continuing to do it after they were told to stop.
If you can't see that Mr. Electrician was being a grade A Douchebag and flaunting some sort of superiority disguised as "self help pep talk b.s." then you are blind to the ways of the internet indeed.

I am sure if I was not the only painter online posting at the same time as Doucheclown he would not have hung around for very long.

no.

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WisePainter

Huh, so you are saying that the test for Electricians is offered in more than 1 language...English, and that you don't need Citizenship to take the test?
Interesting.
Painting has no test and no citizenship requirements...but why do I need to tell you? You already knew that.


At least I hope you did.

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Wolfgang

Gee Wise, I kinda like electricians. 10 years ago I had my old house rewired by electricians. All I had left to do was hang 3 ceiling fans. They were put together and ready to go. I told the electrician who owned the company to go ahead and hang em as I didnt have the time. That nice electrician billed me $600.00 for hanging the 3 fans. I raised an eyebrow or two, wrote him a check and paid him. 'Bout a month later that nice electrician calls me and says he has 3 pre-primed steel slab doors for his shop that he needs painted. Why he even bought them to my shop and supplied the paint so I wouldnt have to be bothered buying the materials and billing him for it. I still have fond memories of that nice electrician... I never made $600.00 before that painting 3 door slabs. Funny he wasnt so nice when he picked up the doors and I gave him the invoice. He wasnt talking very nice either. I just told him it was a coincidence that I happened to charge the same price for painting door slabs that he charged for hanging ceiling fans. Sadly after he paid me he didnt have any more door slabs for me to paint. I sure miss those $200.00@ door jobs.

rbsremodeling

that right there was some funny stuff

did you use behr paint??

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Wolfgang

RBS, honestly it WAS Behr exterior semi-gloss. I remember because it was the first time I had used it. Home Depot had just opened their first store in this area about 3 months before. Mighty fine paint...mighty fine.

mahlere

funny thing...i was never even talking to or about you until you got your pity party on...

the house Celtic posted can not be bought on $12/hr...that was my point to the General Contractor from Morristown...but you felt the need to interject your opinion...than get upset and angry when I tell you that you can do better...I'm beginning to think that you take pride in underachieving...less pressure...yet you feel the need to defend the indefensible...

good luck...i'll go back to the contractor's forums...you stick with the painter's forums...

WisePainter

Which in my opinion is totally worth the hour it takes even me to do that job.

Wow, that is cheap for an hours worth of work...Hell you are an "electrician" ffs!!
You should have more self esteem and charge what the job is really worth!!



$150.00-$200.00



Well that apparently is the going rate for 2 hours worth of work for electricians.
Don't fight it, it only hurts more.



Mess with us no self esteem having painters will ya'?

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WisePainter

Do we have a troll smiley here?

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rbsremodeling

Both of you go to your rooms. I don't care who started it

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WisePainter

But my room is far less superior.

Can I go to his instead?

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