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Old 04-03-2007, 12:00 PM   #21
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brush just curious why do you think the woman are slower workers??
I don't, just haven't met a female painter that was as fast as my guys... I suppose I should have also said I rarely find male painters that can keep up as well. I am sure there are female painters that could keep up, but with a ratio we see around here of 50 to 1... .sorta hard to find.

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Old 04-03-2007, 01:44 PM   #22
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Wrong Georgie...
How so?
There are couple of customers I have not met and we are a small company.
How can the president of a 15 crew company get to meet every customer?
Under what capacity?

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Old 04-03-2007, 02:15 PM   #23
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Maybe I misread/misunderstood your original comment? The way I read it the contractor may never see the client unless they are doing sales or painting. (notice I left out the gender because it's irrelevant)

I guess I just found it hard to understand that the only time you see a client is during sales or if your in the field painting. It would be hijacking the thread to go into detail.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:31 PM   #24
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A lot of good points made here!
I may not have the painting skills as my husband, when it comes to closing a deal with a customer, l think I am an asset. Most women make the decisions and seem to feel more at ease. Maybe that is because hubby is the strong silent type!
Construction is a male dominated industry by nature.
I think there are a lot more women involved in painting that appear on this forum, decorative painters, partners, etc.
Or maybe all the gals are working while the boys are on the forums
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Not sure who is better and does it matter?
We just hire the best person for the job opening.
We are confusing the matter here.
A paint contractor is not necessarily a painter.
A woman contractor that doesn't do sales or paint may never see the customer.
Also, a woman field painter may not have a bearing on the decision
as she appears after the project has been awarded.
Hi George,

Shhh... You misread my intent.. I was just trying to get Lornmastro to propose to me..

Seriously, what I had in mind was, like RC painting points out in the above post, since the target market in painting business is likely women, and women tend to be more comfortable and open with other women instintually..

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I agree totally with you jack My betroved..lol, woman are for the most part are the ones hiring the painter. they are more comfortable having woman come into there house to work(we are constantly being left alone in peoples houses,constantly being asked our opinion on design things,we've zipped up dresses,watch there kids when they ran out for milk,to pick up other kids,....we become there buddies). A painter once told me that he always is business like with his customers....i disagree...i think you need to have a personal connection with your customers(esp.woman). I think that's what makes them call you back/give your name along with doing a great job, of course.
I don't get it george "if a woman contractor doesn't do sales or paint"...i think for the most part most painting contractors do one or the other unless you are extremely successful in this business...and yes if you have woman painting for you they are not seen til they get to the job but for me most of my business is repeat business/referrals.
when i was doing my market research...i called in 3 painters...2 walked in looked around and gave me a price...the 3rd...started chatting with me told me he had just started the business with his son...sat down on the floor told us about his previous business...I would have hired the 3rd one in a second...he was personal i would have felt very comfortable(comfortable is the key word) having him in my house for 2 days.

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Wow, poor George.. heh, I think most of you misread his post... basically he meant that, like one company here, the owner is female but never sees her clients, ever... the salesman makes the call and the bidder does the work, she is paper only and sits at home most of the time at her "office". She has zero female painters.. so, even though SHE owns and runs the company.. her clients have no clue.
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SHE owns and runs the company.. her clients have no clue.
She or He makes no difference, but how can anyone RUN a company and not have any contact with the clients?? The company is running on auto-pilot unless the owner is actively involved. With no disrespect, I simply can not understand the idea that anyone would do this. Me B confuzzled.. Sorry, I'm trying not to change the topic and hijack the thread, but I can't keep my big mouth shut on that comment either. haha
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Heh, there are lots out there like that... seriously, I can introduce you to several just in this small town. Figureheads.
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Wow, poor George.. heh, I think most of you misread his post... basically he meant that, like one company here, the owner is female but never sees her clients, ever... the salesman makes the call and the bidder does the work, she is paper only and sits at home most of the time at her "office". She has zero female painters.. so, even though SHE owns and runs the company.. her clients have no clue.
Thanks Ben, exactly.

Let's use someone like Nolan Painting for example.
I am sure he doesn't mind.
He is a paint contractor.
At any point he can have maybe 7-10 crews running.
Whether he is male or female is irrelevant, he may never see most clients.
Whether women are painters or not is irrelevant as far as selling the job goes, it could be a salesman

My point is, I love my painters now. They just happen to be women.
The next one hired could be a man, who knows.
Summer help returning is a male student, it doesn't really matter.
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Thanks Ben, exactly.

Let's use someone like Nolan Painting for example.
I am sure he doesn't mind.
He is a paint contractor.
At any point he can have maybe 7-10 crews running.
Whether he is male or female is irrelevant, he may never see most clients.
Whether women are painters or not is irrelevant as far as selling the job goes, it could be a salesman

My point is, I love my painters now. They just happen to be women.
The next one hired could be a man, who knows.
Summer help returning is a male student, it doesn't really matter.
Hey George. I was wondering around your site, which paint are you using that is Zero VOC? just wondering. and also what is GTA Painters? One company with three different painting companys within it?
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She or He makes no difference, but how can anyone RUN a company and not have any contact with the clients?? The company is running on auto-pilot unless the owner is actively involved. With no disrespect, I simply can not understand the idea that anyone would do this. Me B confuzzled.. Sorry, I'm trying not to change the topic and hijack the thread, but I can't keep my big mouth shut on that comment either. haha
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Let's hijack for a bit anyway .

I don't remember Warren Buffet selling me any Impervo enamel lately...
Of course different level of business, I understand.
You are right, female/male makes no difference.
A contractor, a salesperson, a painter, a bookkeeper etc.
don't have to be the same person.
There are some times I did not have contact with the customer
and it worked out beautiful.
The salesperson sold the job, the project manager ran the job and was the contact person,
the office manager would follow up with the customer retention program etc.

In fact it is my goal, to make this the norm.

Now back to the topic:

Today's comment on the completion form:

...superior workman(women)ship...

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Hey George. I was wondering around your site, which paint are you using that is Zero VOC? just wondering. and also what is GTA Painters? One company with three different painting companys within it?
PPG Pure Performance
B. Moore Ecospec
Farrow & Ball
General Paints z coat

GTA Painters is three paint contractors in Toronto.
Some times we exchange leads, meet informally
and the website is intended to eat up valuable Google Real Estate
away from the competition. It will eventually provide us some leads too.
We are members of NAPP as well.
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Cool, I have been meaning to try PPG's Pure Performance how is it? (Sorry to be Hijacking the thread)
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Cool, I have been meaning to try PPG's Pure Performance how is it? (Sorry to be Hijacking the thread)
I like it
and it tints to all colours
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not a problem hijack all you want....i found out what i wanted to find out...there are 3 woman painting contractors on this forum.
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