Whats the best oil paint - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

scottonpainting · 05-31-2007, 01:19 AM

I am looking for the best oil paint to paint trim with that is non-yellowing( if there really is one) I heard the porter paint has the glyptix gloss that is very good and say non-yellowing. Has anyone used this and how long does it stay white?

Dave Mac · 05-31-2007, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scottonpainting

I am looking for the best oil paint to paint trim with that is non-yellowing( if there really is one) I heard the porter paint has the glyptix gloss that is very good and say non-yellowing. Has anyone used this and how long does it stay white?

interior or exterior

int i like duron everlast, as long as you buy the best line, you will be ok with any of the major brands imo. sw second favorite, bm is ok just a little thin imo

dont use oil on the ext

Workaholic · 05-31-2007, 07:09 AM

Oil paint yellows most in dark places where it is not getting much sunlight, Glyp from porter is rated good, i have a lot of experience with high gloss industrial enamel from porter as well. We used it to run trim for many years. Had them shoot 2black to it to slow dowm the yellowing.
I was just in a womans house a couple of months ago, and we painted her home 3 or 4 years ago and her high gloss still looked good and white. Yet if i would of looked inside her closets they would of probably had a bit of yellowing.
If it was not for the soaring prices of thinner and laquer i would probably still be using High Gloss Industrial Enamel. Oil produces a great finish.
EDIT: A great finish for interior trim that is.

Woz the Painter · 05-31-2007, 04:20 PM

I used to paint my bathroom ceilings at home with P&L gloss oil and usually they would start getting yellow within the first year, I know use a gloss latex, not as shiny, but does'nt yellow.

As far as exterior goes gloss oils tend to harden with age, get brittle and peel and crack over time, also colors fade rapidly. Outside go with a 100% acrylic latex for best gloss and color retention.

plazaman · 05-31-2007, 05:07 PM

Correct me if i am wrong, isnt oil being faded out?

Richard · 05-31-2007, 07:23 PM

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Correct me if i am wrong, isnt oil being faded out?

just about all faded out here

I can't stand the cleanup hassles anyway...not to mention problems with moisture/mildew problems on exteriors

gideond · 06-01-2007, 11:31 AM

We've never had any issues with P&L interior Satin or Eggshell. The int/ext oil gloss is a little different. Unlike the other sheens this one has urethane in it. That's probably why it yellows more quickly. The stuff is too expensive for me to sell anyway so I haven't gotten any feedback on it.

**slickshift** · 06-01-2007, 04:07 PM

"The best" depends on a lot of things
How much you want to spend?

Most oils don't yellow too much with some sunlight on them
If you are talking interior, and you want no yellow, go with a waterborne enamel
There's too many variables with light inside
H/O could put a plant in the corner and the trim behind it is now in shade and yellowing

Woz the Painter · 06-01-2007, 04:24 PM

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Correct me if i am wrong, isnt oil being faded out?

In many states it has been taken off the market, unless you have a special circumstance, like heavy industrial use.

Here in Illinois rumers of its demise have been floating around for at least 15 years, but at this time is still available.

quality app · 06-01-2007, 09:39 PM

Personaly I like oil, it flows so much better, it sands alot better, adhision and wear are unmatched in my book. It is easy to and a small amount of tint to hold down the yellowing problems.

pstorey · 06-02-2007, 09:34 AM

I like Iron Clad by BM. It's an Industrial enamel with asatin finish. I hear its the same thing as the satin impervo.
I've heard penetrol can speed up the yellowing process dramaticallly. Anyone else hear this?

Richard · 06-02-2007, 10:10 AM

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Personaly I like oil, it flows so much better, it sands alot better, adhision and wear are unmatched in my book. It is easy to and a small amount of tint to hold down the yellowing problems.

Just don't go put it on the exterior of a house that is prone to mildew...

Oil is fine, but acrylic latex has many better qualities, not to mention the clean up and environmental aspects

after all, we're not selling someone an "easy sanding job" or "good flow", those are qualities that WE the painters like.

We are selling quality/lasting paint jobs

didn't say I didn't like oil, just saying it's fading out and for good reason

rws · 06-02-2007, 12:47 PM

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I like Iron Clad by BM. It's an Industrial enamel with asatin finish. I hear its the same thing as the satin impervo.
I've heard penetrol can speed up the yellowing process dramaticallly. Anyone else hear this?

I have heard this too.

Woz the Painter · 06-02-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pstorey

I like Iron Clad by BM. It's an Industrial enamel with asatin finish. I hear its the same thing as the satin impervo.
I've heard penetrol can speed up the yellowing process dramaticallly. Anyone else hear this?

Yes I've heard it and dicussed it with other painter's, no one seems to have an answer, the penetrol can says it does'nt effect the color, but who knows for sure.

Oils have a tendency to yellow, even in varnish's as compared to acrylic.

**Teetorbilt** · 06-02-2007, 03:47 PM

Interlux. No problems.