What Type Of Brushes Are Preferred

davidanbess

Hi what size and brand of brush do you all prefer, I mean just for your everday job,do you have brushes you use just with oil paint or do you use the same brush for both, and why does all the so called painters prefer the angled brush when you can cut a line ever bit as good with a standard brush, from what I've seen here the angled brush is used because of the inability of the painter using it.
Your thoughts please

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ModernStyle

So anyone who uses an angle brush does so because they cant paint for sh**. Interesting ............
The way I see it is if a guy likes an sash brush then thats his business, it doesnt make me think any less of the guy. Reminds me of this old man I once worked with who told me I wasnt a good painter because I didnt like to use a 4" brush. Never mind the fact that everything I painted went twice as fast as what he did and looked many times better,that didnt matter one bit. All that mattered was that 4" brush and the fact that I used only a 3".
I say if you want to use a 1" angle brush to paint everything then thats your business. If a guy is doing good work and making money then his choice of brush should only matter to him, I aint buying his brushes.
I use mostly Wooster brushes because thats what the paint store I shop at carries, I have a few old Purdy's and even a couple of cheapies called Fat Boy's, they all work. I probably even have a few real cheap brushes out in my garage somewhere, you know the 5 brushes for $5 type they sell at Wal-mart, I use them when I dont feel like cleaning a good brush to paint something stupid like a sample for my mother in law.

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davidanbess

Hey I'm not saying you personally but you must know the guys I'm referring to

slickshift

Thanks for the insult
Good luck with answers to your questions

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Originally Posted by ModernStyle I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr

paintr56

My brush of choice is a three inch ermine from Wooster. I use it to cut all most every thing down to window muttins. I use very little oil so no I don't have a different brush for oil usually use an older brush in case I don't get it cleaned before it starts to set. Wouldn't say an angle brush shows inability. It is about what you are comfortable with.

Jim

ModernStyle

I use only foam brushes

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Workaholic

Well this has been topic has been rode hard and put away wet so many times.
I am sure that you were not trying to offend anyone. I hope anyways.
The reason why people do things like use an angle tool for the bulk of the work, is the same reason that people prefer one brand of brush to the other. Well that was how you were taught to do this job in the first place. I was taught using purdys, which a lot of people will tell me that they suck but hey thats how i was taught. And i will agree that once SW bought them that quality probably will drop.
Anyways I was raised on 4" XL swans for cut in brushes for interiors . I also use 3 and 1/2 XL swans or XL pips a lot as well, mostly for trim but i use them for cut in brushes as well. When something works good you get into a comfortable place.

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davidanbess

Why is everyone getting on their high horse here since I have only been here a short time and the painters or so called painters that I have seen all use these angled brushes hence the question in the first place about type of brushes used and preference.
If I have offended anyone this was not my intention so please accept my apologies.

Regards D/B

ModernStyle

you keep saying "so called painters", thats not gonna win you too many friends here. Everyone here takes their trade pretty serious, and I will be the first to admit that I have learned a thing or 2 from these guys since i started posting here.

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jackrabbit5

I'll deffer my offense for the time being in the hopes that you didn't really intend to insult this "so called painter". I like an angled sash because it just seems to work better for general cutting in than a flat brush for me, especially when getting into tight corners. As for what kind, I like the Purdy 2" XL-Glide. Now if I could only find a decent oil brush. It seems like making oil brushes is a lost art. Anyone care to share what their favorites are?

ProWallGuy

Stacy, my favorite oil brush is the Wooster Platinum. I like the white china bristle for some reason.

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ProWallGuy

As for the original question, I use 3" flat-sash brushes almost 100%. Learned with these, and just like them. I will switch to an angle brush if I have a LOT of french windows, but can still be comfortable painting them with the flat 3". I will admit I snicker when I see someone using an angled brush exclusively, just makes me wonder if they never learned to cut a line or get in a corner with a flat brush. No offense to anyone, it is just MHO.

This is my weapon of choice:

Wooster Super/Pro 3" Badger



A quick edit as to why I don't like an angled brush. When I'm cutting a line, whether it be ceiling, wall, or whatever, I tend to spin the brush as I go. Meaning, I make a stroke, spin it around, and stroke again, basically using both sides of the brush. So you can see why an angled doesn't work well for me.

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ModernStyle

That is how I cut also, the company I learned with only gave us a 3" nylon bristle Wooster for latex, a 2 1/2" Wooster white china bristle for stain and enamel and a 3" black China bristle for exterior solid oil stain. The owner of the company supplied everyone with the same equipment when we started and you had to trade in your worn out brush for a new one. Only the crew leaders were allowed fancy things like Whiz rollers and smaller brushes for tight areas. We were also not allowed to pole roll, he wanted everything done off of a 4' for some reason, he got over that real quick though when some of his builders swiched to eggshell and the guys started leaving lap marks.
I had been painting for like 8 years before I ever had an angled brush, I just always stuck with what I had learned with. Now I have alot of brushes, my wife is always complaining about brushes and putty knives laying around the house, " I bet there is $2000 worth of this stuff laying around and you always just buy a new one", i reply that she is wrong and that it is closer to $3000. Then the fun really starts........

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daArch

Hey, I'm outa the painting business and firmly entrenched in wallcoverings and I take offense to the "so called painters" line and the inference that one must use straight brush to cut a good line. Angled brushes (if you studied paint brush construction) are DESIGNED for a reason, not a preference. Sure, my old partner and I used to play macho games by only using 3" ovals for a day or two, but then we got smart (or sober) and went back to using up to three different brushes a day. 1 1/2" angled sash, 2" Cutter, and 3" oval siding. A good craftsman knows the proper tool and when to use it.

I could still paint circles around you young wannabe - blindfolded, one hand tied behind my back, and four fingers of my good hand amputated !!!

there, that's outa my system sorry, but this forum has been so mature and un-confrontational that these comments caught me by surprise.

And now back to your regularly scheduled program

As for the best damn brushes, all of you NOT from the Boston area unfortunately missed the good fortune of using a Dexter Bros china bristle back in the 70's - 90's. Johnson Paint made a good imitation, but the Dexter were about a 1/4 inch longer and soft as a baby's a$$. Dey be da BEST.

Never used latex whilst in the business so I'm outa that loop. I was talking to PWG the other day about what would be a good brush to lay waterborne Satin Impervo on. My 25 year old (unused) Wooster Lindbeck is good, but just old technology for the new latexes.

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daArch

JEEPERS PWG,

And you call ME cheap.

Even I spend money on more than one brush

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jackrabbit5

I got several EX Fashun a while back. They were OK but not as nice as I would like. What I would really like is a 1 1/2" angled sash. One that the bristles hold together and not stick out all over the place after 2 days use. One that the bristles aren't so coarse that they scrape off more paint than they put on. One that doesn't leave littlle broken off bits of bristle everywhere. Did I miss anything? I realize that you don't get all of this right out of the box. A bristle brush needs to be broken in but in order to break it in it needs to be somewhat usable to begin with. I don't use oil brushes much anymore and maybe that's part of the problem. Back in the day, we never washed out a brush, we just hung it in oil between uses. Now you can't even buy brush oil anymore so you have to make your own and before you know it it's skinning over and gelling up and pretty soon your brushes are trash.

daArch

YUP, you would have loved a Dexter Bros or Johnson brush. I just checked my stash and I only have one new Johnson 1 1/2" angle sash. If I had two, I was gonna send you one, HONESTLY !

We used to soak them for 24 hr in linseed and turps. These were perfect right out of the wrapper. Literally no breaking in. We cleaned them in kerosene every day (sometimes at lunch time during hot weather) and they NEVER exploded. the oils in the kerosene kept them soft. I never had luck with a brush keeper.

I still got little stubbies that are as tight as when new.

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jackrabbit5

Sounds like a personal problem

ProWallGuy

I'm gonna save this one for later!

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daArch

Well, you can talk to the WW about THAT

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