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View Poll Results: What should occupie the most of a owners time?
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Face the wall and work right along with you HIRED crew?
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Work at getting work,Manageing jobs, equipment, crew, hire & firing?
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03-20-2009, 10:43 PM
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#1
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Registered User
Trade:
Painting/Maintenance
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5
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what is a owner to do...?
so what i would like to know is this? is a painting company owners time better spent on the wall or in the office. if you are on the wall < assuming that you are a experienced tradesmen> then you are not getting jobs, getting your budget worked out, or keeping your mind open to the vast possibilities that you can use to move the company to the next level. you can still operate the job through management and job foremen. but if you are on the wall you can also handle the job now and hope for the job then. so what do you guys think which way should one go to work the company just right.on the wall or in the office. now i do understand that as in any trade a owner must be capable to perform the actions that he has his/her crew doing and that at times will have to face the wall but rather where is the best place for the main timing of the owner.
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03-21-2009, 12:13 AM
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#2
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Organic Painter
Trade:
Painting Contractor
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Louisville, Ky.
Posts: 945
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Doing the math on this is simple!
Paint and run out of work or bid and get work.
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03-21-2009, 06:57 AM
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#3
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Pro
Trade:
Painting Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 495
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really depends on your goals. You can do all the above and make a good living.
IMO
I perfer not having to paint to make a good living, I found for me once I had the right guys in place, team leaders, my presence on the job was not Really needed.
Last edited by Dave Mac; 03-21-2009 at 07:03 AM.
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03-21-2009, 09:09 AM
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#4
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Member
Trade:
painting
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 35
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Golf
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03-21-2009, 11:33 AM
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#5
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Registered User
Trade:
Painting Contractor
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Mike
Paint and run out of work or bid and get work.
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Ditto.
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03-21-2009, 02:39 PM
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Member
Trade:
Painter
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Dekalb Illinois
Posts: 47
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To MAC1...FROM MAC2
NO FAIR  ... Put a cork in it and get back on the wall
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03-21-2009, 02:51 PM
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Capra aegagrus
Trade:
Remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,892
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This isn't only a painting question; it applies to all of the trades. When starting up, you really don't have much choice. You have to wear both hats. But having done that, I can vouch for the fact that it sucks, and it's very difficult to do a good job at either when trying to do both.
Ideally, you find or train someone who you can depend on to produce quality work while you're out lining up new jobs for him/them. In theory at least, that will allow you to make more money than the guys out there actually doing the labor, and as you age, it will save wear and tear on your body.
Now to talk myself into following that advice...
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03-21-2009, 03:10 PM
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Pro
Trade:
Painting Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAC2PAINTING
NO FAIR  ... Put a cork in it and get back on the wall 
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lol, but I prefer the term "in the bucket" lol.
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03-21-2009, 09:30 PM
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Pro
Trade:
Painting Contractor
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Huntsville Alabama
Posts: 1,182
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It should be #2 Work at getting work,Managing jobs, equipment, crew, hire & firing?
I am still deep in the bucket though and as of right now it is. # 1
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Sean
Last edited by Workaholic; 03-21-2009 at 09:46 PM.
Reason: fixed typo in what i quoted.
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03-21-2009, 09:36 PM
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#10
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Trade:
residential framing/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 3,598
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Most of the work that I aquire is based solely on me being on the job. My gift is my trade. If your good at what you do, the work will find you.
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" It's a Jersey thing, you wouldn't understand"
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03-21-2009, 10:24 PM
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A bit abrasive.
Trade:
Painting
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: KC KS/MO
Posts: 1,491
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer
Most of the work that I aquire is based solely on me being on the job. My gift is my trade. If your good at what you do, the work will find you. 
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yup.
I get calls all of the time while working to stop by and take a look at some work that needs to be done. Of course I have to go after 5 p.m. and sometimes maybe even a weekend, but work is work and I intend to be the first painter ever to retire when I am too old to care if my line is cut in straight or not.
I can do both because I rock.
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My advice: Hire a real painter to do it.
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03-21-2009, 10:47 PM
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#12
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Trade:
residential framing/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern New Jersey
Posts: 3,598
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I chase jobs on nights and weekends, put my 40 or so in on the job. All of my work is by referrals from other customers. I don't even have a listed number, so I'm not throwing numbers at jobs I'll never get.
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" It's a Jersey thing, you wouldn't understand"
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