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Old 09-28-2006, 06:45 PM   #21
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Flawless, get yourself a nice bag to carry/organize all of your stuff. As a painter, I would have one of the promotional ones from SW/BM/Porter/etc. I have collected a bunch of them from different manufacturers over the years and they make a good first impression.

A laptop with slide shows helps a lot too. My son can fade a 'before' pic into an 'after' pic without fading out completely inbetween and this is usually good for some ooohhh's & aaaahhh's. Just make sure that you have a good anchorpoint for the camera and a focal point for the frame.
Teetor, what size are the bags you're suggesting? Is it like a gym bag size? I don't really won't to look like I'm planning on staying the night.

That's a good idea with the fading. I plan to get a laptop pretty soon and that would be nice to do. I would probably let it run while I did measuring so I could make the most of my time.

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Old 09-28-2006, 09:00 PM   #22
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You need one large enough to carry all of your stuff without it hanging out all over the place. My wife uses a beach bag but she only sells a few products that are related plus people aren't turned of by a woman carrying a flowery bag.

Everybody makes one. Mine are from BM, Hunter Douglas, Bay Shutters, Timberline, Norman Ind's., on and on. The standard bag is rectangular, long enough to fit in a legal size clipboard (also laptop), about 6" wide, usually has a flap to keep rain and gunk from getting in. Think an oversized briefcase that opens at the top.

In your case, I'm going for a paint job. Into the bag goes a clipboard with legal pad turned to a fresh page with the customers name and phone# at the top. Laptop loaded with a BM program, digital camera, tape, color deck, extra mechanical pencils, two decent looking pens (black ink). All batteries are charged, cel phone in the truck and I'm concentrating on only one thing. The Job!

Do the meet & greet, set up your temp 'office' somewhere, go through your presentation, snap some pics/download to BM software and you're good to go on what their room could look like. Keep the patter/interface going and keep notes on the second page of your clipboard when they aren't looking. You can also fill this in when your measuring on the front page. Get every detail. Dogs name (can be VERY important later), kids names, sports, hobbies, times&dates. Jot everything down.

I'm still missing a printer in the truck but I can produce a contract on the computer to see if we are in agreement. If so, I go to the office and fax or hand deliver a contract ASAP.

When the work starts, the second page builds bonds. Hey, Ralphie (the dog), Hi Bob (the HO), How was your game at ......last week? Did Jimmie win his softball game? How's Gladis' (mother-in-law's) gall bladder doing? Is Bonnie (wife) back from Providence yet?

It's all part of the 'game'. Get good at it and the world is your oyster.
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I think you're going to be a big success!

SgtBaldy,
Does this mean you set aside a special day of the week for estimates? I get people who are very impatient (or so it seems) for an estimate, and I don't want to lose their business by telling I can only see them on my estimate day (which is why I don't have one). Is that a mistake in your opinion?

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A laptop with slide shows helps a lot too. My son can fade a 'before' pic into an 'after' pic without fading out completely inbetween and this is usually good for some ooohhh's & aaaahhh's.
Oh great idea! I can do that in iPhoto (I'm a mac person). That will be easy! Thanks for that awesome tip, can't wait to give it a shot!

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Whoah! I think I understand what you are saying, but how do you use that idea with the client? Does it help them select colors that are good together? (Or did I miss the point altogether?)

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You really have a polished system going, seems a shame not to have a truck printer. I didn't even know they made DC powered ones.
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Inverters are far from new. I'd set up a couple of golf cart batteries and an isolator. Make sure that the inverter is made for electronics.
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Terrance..print it ..it is soooo cool... it shows the importance of selecting colors against a white peice of paper..while selecting with other samples can throw you off extremely...and yes it also shows dramaticaly the effects and influences other colors in a room affect the ones you are chooseing.
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I get a lot of leads from my website. I follow up on leads that meet the criteria I set for new leads. As a result, by the time I have a face to face with the client for an estimate/proposal - they are almost always closed and work is began with 30 days. For those outside the 30 days I have a follow up log.

Like you, I do close about 90% of business. Craigs List which still to this date sends a lot of inquiries are just cheap shoppers. I do not get a lot of business from that board, but from those I have taken, I have gotton a lot of repeat business and referrals.

I still think a professionally designed website is the best tool to showcase your work!
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:21 PM   #27
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Man that great you guys land 90% of your leads, Im at about 4o%, And if i was just to calculate my closing rate with no referalls im at 24%.

a QUESTION FOR YOU 90% Closers, do you job cost every job?? and track every single penny??? Our labor is usally around 30%to 45 %, just wondering what your is ??

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I just wanted to barge in and say, this is a great thread, even though it was dredged up from the past.

Very Informative!

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my dad used to pretend to take his thumb off, but it was actually attached, bent, and sliding on his other finger. I still shock potential customers, but it does prove a point..................... Im just not sure what that is yet................ just kidding........ hey, if it lands a job, its an addition to your portfolio of "Skills to Pay The Bills"

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Led zepp rules............

I'm an owner operater..doing almost all my own painting..and I always show up in paint clothes...I work so much, that I don't have time to change..and I land almost all the jobs.... mostly cuz they are referals.

I give a verbal quote at the 1st meeting and usually I land it right there.
Then I show up on the 1st day of work w/ typed contract & get 1st check.

I always have my portfolio of pics (full page photo's) with me to show,
On interior jobs I bring a folder I made explaining color confidence and suggestions on flow and perception I even have a little sheet I show them
on how color is affected by other colors here... I'll post it for everyone
http://www.contractortalk.com/attach...1&d=1159481434
checkershadow.jpg
A & B ...are the exact same shade/ color!
just print out 2 of these... then cut out a & b on one.... trace cuttouts onto blank peice of paper and tell them... that a & b are the exact same color...they wont believe you...... then slide the blank sheet over with only the cutouts showing a & b..against a white backround. use the thickest paper possible.
Yes, I can see it but would never know it till you described it.
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Led zepp rules............

I'm an owner operater..doing almost all my own painting..and I always show up in paint clothes...I work so much, that I don't have time to change..and I land almost all the jobs.... mostly cuz they are referals.

I give a verbal quote at the 1st meeting and usually I land it right there.
Then I show up on the 1st day of work w/ typed contract & get 1st check.

I always have my portfolio of pics (full page photo's) with me to show,
On interior jobs I bring a folder I made explaining color confidence and suggestions on flow and perception I even have a little sheet I show them
on how color is affected by other colors here... I'll post it for everyone
http://www.contractortalk.com/attach...1&d=1159481434
checkershadow.jpg
A & B ...are the exact same shade/ color!
just print out 2 of these... then cut out a & b on one.... trace cuttouts onto blank peice of paper and tell them... that a & b are the exact same color...they wont believe you...... then slide the blank sheet over with only the cutouts showing a & b..against a white backround. use the thickest paper possible.
Hahahaha! That is the coolest prop for an estimate! I did what you said- printed out 2, used the second one and cut through the squares and a posterboard underneath at the same time. Then I took it to my crews when I was dropping off the checks today. I told them it was a test- get it right and get paid, get it wrong...(they knew I was kidding around).

They know I like to joke around, so they assumed B was the darkest- no one dreamed they were the same. Great object lesson- I'm putting it in my bid package for sure.

Thanks Kellypainting! Kudos on this one...
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