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Old 12-25-2017, 10:43 PM   #21
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I've read the caulk/no caulk threads, but what do y'all do personally? Sometimes raised panels could use some caulk, and sometimes a wall is way out in different planes and getting an exact fit for is almost impossible due to not being able to put it in and it needs a small caulk joint to the wall.
I caulk panels on pigmented finishes. SW Sher-Max.

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I used the airless on my first job. It's possible yes, but you get a lot more over spray that way. They have the Fine Finish Low Pressure (FFLP) tips now which should do better than a regular FF tip but I haven't used my airless since the first job.
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Not sure where you're located in NJ.here is one of the stores that will handle and custom blend it.

https://www.sherwin-williams.com/sto...ington/nj/4350

The store I deal with will ship it to you FedEX if necessary.

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I have gone there before which happens to be 1 1/2 hrs from my house only to find out he did not have any but could order 5-5s. Which would be way more than I need and 2 weeks to get. As usual with SW here they will tell you one thing and do another.
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I have gone there before which happens to be 1 1/2 hrs from my house only to find out he did not have any but could order 5-5s. Which would be way more than I need and 2 weeks to get. As usual with SW here they will tell you one thing and do another.
In that case, I would not be using the product either.

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We have used their products (with several name changes) for about 25 years. We currently buy well over 1,000 gallons/year of stains, sealers, top coats, white primers, & white top coats. Yes, we have looked at a lot of alternatives over the years.

I'd start here, to get info on how to proceed with spray equipment . They will ship small quantities pretty much anywhere, weather permitting
(freeze factor).
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It's looking less and less likely that I'm gonna be able to get the kem aqua here. The girl at my local sw is looking into it, but it's not looking good.

I'll check out the link you provided railman


Edit: girl at Sherwin Williams came thru. I can get it in singles and they can tint it for me. Now to decide on the sprayer to buy.

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any progress?
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I'm gonna give the kem away plus a go. I've probably got 2 weeks of work till I'm to the point of using it.


What primer do y'all use when going from an oil to a waterbourne? Even when properly sanded I've had issues with latex problock sticking.

Thanks again for all the help, it's greatly appreciated.

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I'm gonna give the kem away plus a go. I've probably got 2 weeks of work till I'm to the point of using it.


What primer do y'all use when going from an oil to a waterbourne? Even when properly sanded I've had issues with latex problock sticking.

Thanks again for all the help, it's greatly appreciated.

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Wash the surface with Kurd Kutter, scuff sand with 220, wash again,blow out seams, caulk if going over with pigmented, wash agian, KA+ Surfacer, sand, address any issues, Surfacer, sand, top coat.

Easy peeze

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Ok, cool, sounds easy peezee just like you said.

Same process for the cabinet that has latex over the oil, correct?

One last question and I won't bother y'all anymore, what primer do you like for going over oil if using the water alkyd pc? I have something I wanna try the water alkyd on and sw comp'd me a gallon to try.

Thanks again, I was worried about this upcoming project and now I feel very confident.

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Styx.

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Wash the surface with Kurd Kutter, scuff sand with 220, wash again,blow out seams, caulk if going over with pigmented, wash agian, KA+ Surfacer, sand, address any issues, Surfacer, sand, top coat.

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You really do not realize how much crap is on the doors until you wash them with Krud Kutter and look at the rag or paper towel.
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Styx.

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Tommy Shaw was one of my favorites, but for primer I would use Stix. It sticks, and sands nicely.
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You really do not realize how much crap is on the doors until you wash them with Krud Kutter and look at the rag or paper towel.
I just painted some interior doors this week that looked almost new with a good krud kutter wash and rinse.

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Tommy Shaw was one of my favorites, but for primer I would use Stix. It sticks, and sands nicely.
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You are correct about the Stix.

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What do y'all think about the Ben moore advance? I naturally can't get the deals I can get on sw proclassic but I can now readily get the advance. I had no clue my favorite lumber yard had a paint dept. they said they hear that a lot. I think I would fix the issue with a sign or something, but alas

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What do y'all think about the Ben moore advance? I naturally can't get the deals I can get on sw proclassic but I can now readily get the advance. I had no clue my favorite lumber yard had a paint dept. they said they hear that a lot. I think I would fix the issue with a sign or something, but alas

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Great, if you have 30 days to wait for it to fully coalesce.

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I use Advance with no issues, just needs a few days left alone
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How long does the acrylic alkyd pc need to be hard enough for service? Gonna try some tommorow.

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I wait 48 hours.

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