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Old 03-24-2009, 10:59 PM   #41
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The "lap ride" was part of the learning experience, it helps me teach him how to manuver the van with out knocking over all of the 5's I have stacked in the back. It has nothing to do with the tube of Vaseline on the dash, that is for around my eyes when I spray ....... I swear. The wig is left over from halloween, totaly innocent, been meaning to take it home.
And lets say I asked the guy to try on some stockings, that would just be so they would be stretched out and easier to strain paint with later. It's all in the manual..........
None of that stuff freaked me out.... I found the physical quite odd, only cause it was in a Econo-Line.

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Old 03-24-2009, 11:40 PM   #42
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I think I have been respectful to the pros on here helping me get started in the trade. You, on the other hand, were of no help and are neither my boss or lead of a crew im working for. If you were my boss or showing me how to do something I would never act ungrateful in any way. Seems you have very selective hearing/memory. I could have just been one of those idiots that puts an add in the paper and undercuts you guys out of jobs, ruin the trade and fill HOs heads with 100 more misconceptions, making it more difficult for you to sell the value of your experience.
Don't come up in a professionals only forum and start bossing me around because you painted a nursery Bosco.

I would have put your smart a$$ to the curb for even trying to pull some wise guy smart mouth crap after telling me you have 0 years experience.
I have paid more dues before noon than you have pleasing your pregnant wife with the perfect color to paint the walls in your own home.

Got some smart response to post now tough guy?
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Don't come up in a professionals only forum and start bossing me around because you painted a nursery Bosco.

I would have put your smart a$$ to the curb for even trying to pull some wise guy smart mouth crap after telling me you have 0 years experience.
I have paid more dues before noon than you have pleasing your pregnant wife with the perfect color to paint the walls in your own home.

Got some smart response to post now tough guy?
Wow I did not see that comming.
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Wow I did not see that comming.
Just one smart ass trying to help another smart ass make it in this industry.
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Don't come up in a professionals only forum and start bossing me around because you painted a nursery Bosco.

I would have put your smart a$$ to the curb for even trying to pull some wise guy smart mouth crap after telling me you have 0 years experience.
I have paid more dues before noon than you have pleasing your pregnant wife with the perfect color to paint the walls in your own home.

Got some smart response to post now tough guy?
Im not being a tough guy, just standing up for myself when someone decides to pop off at the mouth. I could put an add in the paper tomorrow under the LLC my family owns, get proper insurance and BOOM, im a pro painter. I refuse to do that because I respect the trade and think it takes more skill than just rolling out some walls and having a straight cut line.

You jump to conclusions about "paying dues", ive been the grunt moving drywall around, vacuming job sites, mixing concrete 14 hours a day in 100 degree heat, having my tools stolen in the bad part of town. I havent paid dues in painting yet, but I will and have no problem with it.

I bet you lose a lot of jobs because you cant listen to people, you hear them but you dont listen. My thread started with giving respect to the pros in this trade and asked how to best get started in the trade. You came in blasting me like I was one of those people asking how to price out a job. Not liking me is fine, youre the man and im not, youre very good looking and im ugly as sin, you have painting skills and im just an idiot named Bosco, all fine and good.

Anyone can be a painter, ANYONE, but not just anyone can be a a great painter who is committed to their trade. I want to be the latter. I said I have 0 years working for a painting company, not painting in general. A man can learn a lot working on his own for 5-7 years, through trial and error.

comments about my wife are not needed. If you want to be treated as a pro, I suggest you act like one. You are on a public forum acting like a fool, threatening hypotheticals. Like I said, I could easily have my own painting company by next week taking money out of the hands of people that do the job right 100% of the time, but I wont. Same reason I never bought tools from a crackhead coming to a job site, its called character...... Get some..... I would also love to see some pics of your jobs. Not that I dont believe youre as good as you say, I just want to see your work.
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Im not being a tough guy, just standing up for myself when someone decides to pop off at the mouth.
You are talking to a 10 year painting pro who has paid his "dues" plenty...popping off to a person like me will get you fired.
Without hesitation.

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I could put an add in the paper tomorrow under the LLC my family owns, get proper insurance and BOOM, im a pro painter. I refuse to do that because I respect the trade and think it takes more skill than just rolling out some walls and having a straight cut line.
You need to respect those that are more experienced that 0 years.

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You jump to conclusions about "paying dues", ive been the grunt moving drywall around, vacuming job sites, mixing concrete 14 hours a day in 100 degree heat, having my tools stolen in the bad part of town.
Have I jumped to conclusions:

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I havent paid dues in painting yet, but I will and have no problem with it.
Guess not.

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I bet you lose a lot of jobs because you cant listen to people, you hear them but you dont listen. My thread started with giving respect to the pros in this trade and asked how to best get started in the trade. You came in blasting me like I was one of those people asking how to price out a job. Not liking me is fine, youre the man and im not, youre very good looking and im ugly as sin, you have painting skills and im just an idiot named Bosco, all fine and good.
Funny you should pop off on such an evening. I just happened to receive this e~mail from a customer I am starting work for tomorrow:

Hi Cindy,

I have a couple of colors in mind that you may like to use:
For the upper and lower entry hall: (pg.56) S.W. #6386 Napery (this is the color I used at Susan's house to paint the entry dome and the ceiling in the hallway).
Family room: (pg.19) S.W. #6128 Blonde
Dining room: (pg.19) Above rail S.W. #6127 Ivoire ~ Below rail S.W. #6128 Blonde

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Okay, I am totally smiling because that is EXACTLY what I picked out except that I was looking at doing the Ivoire as well in the entryway and hallway. I had not looked at the Napery and will do so tonight. I love the blonde and ivoire and feel like they go so much better with what I have. We are on the same track on this one!

See you tomorrow!

Cindy
I will be posting those pictures once the contract is finished.

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Anyone can be a painter, ANYONE, but not just anyone can be a a great painter who is committed to their trade. I want to be the latter. I said I have 0 years working for a painting company, not painting in general. A man can learn a lot working on his own for 5-7 years, through trial and error.
Such wise words...what else will you conjure?

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comments about my wife are not needed. If you want to be treated as a pro, I suggest you act like one. You are on a public forum acting like a fool, threatening hypotheticals. Like I said, I could easily have my own painting company by next week taking money out of the hands of people that do the job right 100% of the time, but I wont. Same reason I never bought tools from a crackhead coming to a job site, its called character...... Get some..... I would also love to see some pics of your jobs. Not that I dont believe youre as good as you say, I just want to see your work.
Son, get ready to swallow...

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I have yet to post the pictures of the kitchen from the large remodel, you are advised to shut thine mouth asap.

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This could just go on and on and on....
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This could just go on and on and on....
Bobby probably blocked his posts by now.
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You are talking to a 10 year painting pro
oh...a NOOb

Bobby.. As an old, 1 man/do-it-all-myself painter nowadays, one of the first questions I might ask is "have you ever spent any time working on/off an extension ladder?"

That's because that'd be the job I'd wanna give up to you first.

But over time, I might give up more and more to you, and who knows, eventually you might even take over for me.

well...not for ME...cuz I ain't that old yet.
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oh...a NOOb

Bobby.. As an old, 1 man/do-it-all-myself painter nowadays, one of the first questions I might ask is "have you ever spent any time working on/off an extension ladder?"

That's because that'd be the job I'd wanna give up to you first.

But over time, I might give up more and more to you, and who knows, eventually you might even take over for me.

well...not for ME...cuz I ain't that old yet.
Yes I have worked on an extension ladder. I painted a two story rental with crappy paint and a 3 story BM. The 3 story house had got me a new name, shakey jake, but the paint quality made the job much smoother. Plus the 3 story had a lot of texture so I really had to but a lot of pressure on the roller. Thanks for the response
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Wisepainter,
Youre missing the big picture here and I have better things to do than argue with you constantly. Now that you have that job, its time to put down the PBR LBS'er, turn the Lynard Skynard down and get to work.
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Yes I have worked on an extension ladder. I painted a two story rental with crappy paint and a 3 story BM. The 3 story house had got me a new name, shakey jake, but the paint quality made the job much smoother. Plus the 3 story had a lot of texture so I really had to but a lot of pressure on the roller.
That'd be good enough for me to at least give you a try. Probably not up 3 stories at first though.

My second question might be "any problems with painting closet interiors"?

Because that would be the next job I'd wanna turn over to you.

You seem like a humble enough guy...maybe sometime I'd read this thread more carefully, and try to figure out what WP has against you.
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That'd be good enough for me to at least give you a try. Probably not up 3 stories at first though.

My second question might be "any problems with painting closet interiors"?

Because that would be the next job I'd wanna turn over to you.

You seem like a humble enough guy...maybe sometime I'd read this thread more carefully, and try to figure out what WP has against you.
Thanks Steve.... Closet interiors would be no probelm for me. I would think if someone has a problem with interiors they either are no good at painting or are 7 feet tall/400lbs. WPs shtick is to get all over people that are not pros. . Though anyone with an add in the paper call themselves a pro, so the term is thrown around with constant lies. A "pro" to me is someone that not only has the skills to perform a perfect job but can also make the HO feel good about the decisions they have made. WPs email was a perfect example of guiding the HO. He got to do what he thinks will work and look best, but the HO has the satisfaction of all decision making. WP does good work but feels I should treat him with the respect I would show my boss or a lead painter teaching me the ropes. He is neither of those. I should have pics up tonight of the room I did, minus lighting and flooring. Im waiting for the light to come in and to have my friend (licensed electrition) give my work the ok. . Dont think the electric will be a problem as it was simple work (1 run to the ceiling/dimmer/replaced all outlets) and I learned from him over the course of a year....
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so did I miss the pics?
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so did I miss the pics?
no, ill have them up tonight
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Don't come up in a professionals only forum and start bossing me around because you painted a nursery Bosco.

I would have put your smart a$$ to the curb for even trying to pull some wise guy smart mouth crap after telling me you have 0 years experience.
I have paid more dues before noon than you have pleasing your pregnant wife with the perfect color to paint the walls in your own home.

Got some smart response to post now tough guy?


My god - who broke the paint roller off in your ass today??


The guy comes on here --- genuinely showing some pretty unwarranted respect for you "pros" --- and just simply wants a little guidance. Not like he's just some bum wanting to see what you all charge. He just wants to learn about a trade, that's all.

Honestly, be glad he's not your competition. He's gotta great attitude and that's something you're lacking.



and, you haven't done anything except REPEATEDLY thrown sh*t at him.


I can appreciate a little ball-bustin too --- but not everybody is laughing --- and one comment is enough, but you keep going with him. That - and you REALLY crossed the line, talking about his wife You wouldn't do that in real life.



As for paying dues - everyone pays their dues in life. We ALL do - not just contractors and not just painters. We all do.


So chill out on the guy. Actually - you really should APOLOGIZE to the man. That is part of paying your dues in this life, pal.













Bobby, when you get to 20 posts - (I think it's 20) --- PM (private message) me. I'll be glad to help you if you'd like.

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no, ill have them up tonight
Good deal.
How old are you Bobby?
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Bobby, You have the right attitude & you are in your 20s. You will have NO PROBLEM getting a job at a starting position. I'm in my 40s & so are my painters. I would LOVE to find a young, go-getter to help out with the prep work & also help balance out my average hourly pay rate. You see, as a contractor grows older, so do his long term painters. And those pay rates keep going up. I've been thinking about where my company will be in ten years if I don't find any new blood! A bunch of cranky old guys in there 50s..........
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I've been thinking about where my company will be in ten years if I don't find any new blood! A bunch of cranky old guys in there 50s..........
I worked on a crew like that. I quit and went on my own, and he folded.

Yer clock is ticking.
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Closet interiors would be no probelm for me. I would think if someone has a problem with interiors they either are no good at painting or are 7 feet tall/400lbs.
My problem with closet interiors is that (after thousands) I hate them.


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WPs email was a perfect example of guiding the HO. He got to do what he thinks will work and look best
It might also be a good example of having some "S.W. #6386 Napery" leftover from Susan's house, and trying to get Cindy to use it.



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WP does good work but feels I should treat him with the respect I would show my boss or a lead painter teaching me the ropes.
Sometimes people demand respect on the internet, because they aren't getting much in 3D.

anyhow...I wish you luck.
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