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Old 11-29-2006, 10:20 PM   #21
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The 18" being an OSHA no no ... is just plain rediculous... we will forget that was even said and keep it between us...ok??

Suggestion for painting ceilings: New homes... spray & back roll... occupied homes... cut & roll... with the roller of your choice...(popcorn/texture ceilings at own discretion) plain and simple...

If you haven't use an 18" before... it don't take much to get a rhythm down... you will get a good shoulder workout...

Anyone that "rolls" first then cuts... is watching to much HGTV...

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Old 11-30-2006, 03:46 AM   #22
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You're absolutely right. The company I work for doesn't do on average 200 Ryan Homes a year between 5-6 guys & I haven't been painting for 7 years. In reality I've only painted my mom/pops house a couple times. Busted I am on that one.

Listen I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I'm right. You say it'll hurt your back, yeah probably. But not no more than a 9" will if you actually know what you're doing. Please do show me documented problems though & I'll be pleased. Really... If they really do indeed cause you problems after using them the proper way, I'd like to know as I never saw it or felt it for myself. Always willing to be educated on what I do wrong if it's going to save me trouble in the future.
Well, sorry if I come off sounding like anyone is doing anything wrong. I'm not saying that. I did want to point out that the 18 will cause back trouble after a while. If you're that stout of a guy, and it doesnt' bother you, more power to you. It's hard for me to belive you do 400 houses a year with an 18" roller. I'm not disputing the proper way. That's not rocket science either. Like I said, I used to use them. I do disagree about it being the same as a 9. Use them both properly and an 18 is still twice the weight.
After 20 yrs, my back feels the work, even without the 18". Fair enough?

I don't know how old you are, and I thought you had your own company. I don't want to argue.
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AAPAINT,

After seeing your post, I'll check into it. Maybe things did change. I'll eat the crow if I'm wrong. To the best of my knowledge they are supposed to be for floors only.

JMPG,

Either you want to argue, or you don't know when it's appropriate to roll then cut. Either way, I'm not going there with you.

To all you guys: I'm having a hard time right now and get a little defensive lately. I'm reading more into the posts than I should. Thanks for your reasonable replies.
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Old 11-30-2006, 08:08 AM   #24
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AAPAINT,

After seeing your post, I'll check into it. Maybe things did change. I'll eat the crow if I'm wrong. To the best of my knowledge they are supposed to be for floors only.

JMPG,

Either you want to argue, or you don't know when it's appropriate to roll then cut. Either way, I'm not going there with you.

To all you guys: I'm having a hard time right now and get a little defensive lately. I'm reading more into the posts than I should. Thanks for your reasonable replies.
No argument here... I don't waste my time with that... this is all my opinion... or my own preferences... sometimes a sarcastic comment

ALL painters have different ways & techniques to painting BUT... in my "opinion" its better to cut-in first... then roll... for a more quality finish... In my 12 years as a painter... I have never come across a situation where I had to roll first...

Please tell me when it is appropriate to roll... then cut... maybe you will teach me something...

Try not to read into these posts to much... we are all different... have different opinions... take it for what it is... nun of us have all the answers... thats why we visit this place... we all will learn "something" from one another...
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Hey Joe....I can see where that might make sense. I honestly would have never thought of them being for just floors though....
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Thanks for all responses and suggestions.

Thankfully I'm not regulated by OSHA as I am in Ontario, Canada.

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Please tell me when it is appropriate to roll... then cut...
On flat paint, usually apartments, sometimes new construction.

There have been many, many times over the years, and numerous painters that do it. If it's on hgtv they got it from us.
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About spraying 65 - 70 gal. It's prime and 2 top coats, 8 man hours.

So, why Roll. Especially with brocade texture on the ceilings.

Sure, I spend more on paint, I save on labor, and I believe it's a better job.

Still, no one answered the question. Why would you roll and brush new work instead of spray?
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On flat paint, usually apartments, sometimes new construction.

There have been many, many times over the years, and numerous painters that do it. If it's on hgtv they got it from us.


OOOOHHHHH!!.... thats why I never come across it before...

I dont do apartment painting... and I spray new construction...

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About spraying 65 - 70 gal. It's prime and 2 top coats, 8 man hours.

So, why Roll. Especially with brocade texture on the ceilings.

Sure, I spend more on paint, I save on labor, and I believe it's a better job.

Still, no one answered the question. Why would you roll and brush new work instead of spray?
I wouldn't. You have it right. Usually, I spray after the drywall goes up. I like doing trim by hand after it's installed, but sometimes that gets sprayed too. This is where the 18" roller comes in, doing the touch-ups.
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About spraying 65 - 70 gal. It's prime and 2 top coats, 8 man hours.

So, why Roll. Especially with brocade texture on the ceilings.

Sure, I spend more on paint, I save on labor, and I believe it's a better job.

Still, no one answered the question. Why would you roll and brush new work instead of spray?
Prime and two top coats... if it's a 1200 square tract home that's 78000 square of paint you are putting on 3600 square, I hope there are LOTS of walls.... I do the same with way less paint when spraying.

Your question - because the GC doesn't want the walls sprayed. 95% of new homes in this area have GC's that are totally against spraying walls... besides the fact they are colored.
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