Zeebo

I am painting a house in a couple of weeks that is new construction - new dryall on both ceilings and walls. The ceiling SF to paint is about about 3500 x 2. The ceiling will get 2 coats of flat white and the walls will get off white or beige colors. I don't have a spray gun nor do I want one.

I typically cut the ceiling corners (where is meets the wall) with a brush...... but that will take me too long for this type of job.

My question is applying the white ceiling paint in the corners - Should I just use a small roller with a rounded end to cut in for the ceiling?? I don't care about the overlap onto the wall - however, this will need to be brushed out after completing a the room.

Any suggestions or pics of tricks, tips or devices would be helpful.

Thanks.

Zeebo

furiousstyles

Last year I did several new construction houses by myself and what i found to work well was to use a lambs wool corner roller when I did the ceilings, followed by brush on walls to make sure there were no goops and then just roll away. Doing it this way is okay if you are planning on putting two coats on walls with decent paint. I put a brush on a pole and cleaned after each corner roll, did the ceilings in a 3000 sq ft house in less than a day, 2000 sq foot house finished before lunch. also used an 18 inch roller.

Zeebo

thanks for the reply...

Question for you...did you find the 18 inch roller to heavy with the paint...I have never tried this type of long roller...everyone tells me it's too heavy for ceilings.

Thanks.

Zeebo

painterofeveryt

18 will get it done alot faster and a tad bit easier,but it will be tougher in the short term(does that make sense?)my vote use the 18 ..and get it done a lot faster.....

JNLP

18's can be scary for the first couple minutes. By the end of the day you'll never want a smaller roller. They are a bit heavier, but not by much. Just figure two 9" naps full of paint really. Not heavy at all. You'll knock them out ALOT faster though.

Flawless Finish

How high are the ceilings?

slickshift

That's an easy one
Run a mini-roller around the edges for the ceiling
The overlap on the walls is not an issue

Def. get an 18 for the main part of the ceiling
Absolutely
They are not too heavy
I just did a cathedral ceiling with one on a 12-foot pole
That's getting up there in control issues, but not dangerous or too heavy
(ran the mini-roller to cut in on a pole too)

I'd suggest to cut in the walls with a 3" brush and roll the walls with an 18" also

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Joewho

Even though people use 18" rollers, it's an OSHA no no. I used to use them, but in the end they will wreck your lower back, as painting in general does.

You could roll the ceilings first and cut second. Having good control of your roller will result in being able to fill 90% of the corners without leaving a lot of paint on the walls. With an 18" though, you can't do that because of the way they are made. Maybe go around with a 9" to fill the corners and roll the rest with an 18"? Then a hockey stick to get the rest.

JNLP

With a proper sized extension pole, and rolling the proper way, you don't bend or put any strain on your back. Most people like to lean into what they're painting & bend with the roller, which brings the back issues. You're supposed to use your arms only in rolling, at the right distance from the wall with a long enough pole & proper hand placement. If you roll correctly, how would it effect your back?

furiousstyles

If OSHA says that its ano-no to use 18" rollers, then I guess to be OSHA compliant you cant use them. But proper hand placement on the pole will make or break ya. I never had a problem with them. I primed 2200 sq ft house by myself in a day with an 18" roller. Yeah, my shoulders are a little torched at the end of the day but my back was fine. Next your gonna tell me I cant stand on an empty five to scrape a booger off the ceiling,lol.

Joewho

LOL, just keep using that 18 for a few years. LOL.

Have your labor use them too, lol. All the time, everyday.

I'm not gonna tell you anything. Your comments speak for themselves.

JNLP

Well I've been rolling for 7 years now, and have done ATLEAST 400 whole house interiors, and so many room here & theres I could never keep count of, all with an 18". My back has never felt better.

I guess you could say a 9" is an OSHA no no too then. Using a 9" will cause you to do twice as much arm movement, eventually causing problems to the elbows. Yeah.

As for extension pole length... With a longer pole you can grip it properly, allowing you to never use your back (except tight spots such as closets) so your comment completely confuses me. Not to start an arguement or anything. It's stupid. Everybody always knows everything on the internet.

Edit: That last paragraph is towards what was edited out about longer poles being worse for you or something another.

DPainting

I'd use a 3 inch slim jim with small nap for all the corners and not alot of paint then cut in the walls with finish paint.

Or if you break down and say screw it and get a sprayer hit all the walls and ceilings with primer and backroll, pole-sand walls out for crud and bumps, then spray out the ceilings and backroll, then finally cut in walls with brushes and roll out finishes or spray if possible.

I can safely tell you I was scared of the sprayer a couple of years ago....I love the dam thing when it isn't being fussy.

Joewho

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Not to start an arguement or anything. It's stupid. Everybody always knows everything on the internet.

I guess you know more than docotors, and all the documented problems because of that roller. I think you're full of it, and you did start an aguement.

I love a good aguement. Yeah, I know what you mean about choking up on the long pole. It doesn't happen. You always wind up with the weight of the roller extended. If you do walls, you either extend the pole or you bend down at the bottom. Not rocket science.

You're grabbing straws with you speculation about the 9". I just plain don't believe you use 18" that much. I think you're lying to save face. But, it discredits me in the process. Sorry.

JNLP

You're absolutely right. The company I work for doesn't do on average 200 Ryan Homes a year between 5-6 guys & I haven't been painting for 7 years. In reality I've only painted my mom/pops house a couple times. Busted I am on that one.

Listen I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying I'm right. You say it'll hurt your back, yeah probably. But not no more than a 9" will if you actually know what you're doing. Please do show me documented problems though & I'll be pleased. Really... If they really do indeed cause you problems after using them the proper way, I'd like to know as I never saw it or felt it for myself. Always willing to be educated on what I do wrong if it's going to save me trouble in the future.

thom

So why not spray?

After the drywallers are done, the carpenters install the closet shelf strips then the painter goes to work.

About 4 man hours to clean and prep the window frames, caulk the window frames, caulk the closet shelf strips, mask the windows, exterior doors, and 3' of the slab off the wall.

Next day, 8 man hours to prime and paint (about 65-70 gal on a 2000 sq ft hse, strip the masking and clean the sprayer.

Later, after the doors are installed, we brush the door jambs, spray the doors, and pre-paint the baseboards.

Seems to be a lot faster.

Traditions

65-70 gallons? Are you talking primer and paint. Or spraying primer alone. Seems like a little high to me.

Brushslingers

Ummm, I agree... hell we just sprayed out the house we are building... WHOLE house, not just ceilings, with 38. And it's 3700+.

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LennyV-NHSNOLA

He said "... prime and paint..."

AAPaint

Gotta be primer and two coats he's talking about with that much paint.

I am quite interested in this OSHA deal with 18" rollers. I have seen them used on hundreds of jobsites with inspectors there watching. I'm sure someone out of all those GC's, supers, inspectors, etc would have said something if an 18" roller was illegal to use. Heck, I'm sure the paint store would say something too when buying so many 18" frames, tubs, and naps.

I wonder what OSHA says about drywall sanders with those crappy sanding poles that flip over and gouge the wall. 8 hours on one of those suckers applying pressure will kill your back!

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