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Old 02-14-2007, 07:33 PM   #1
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thoughts on bid for large room

I've never tackled anything this large-72' x 45' room w/ 20' ceiling-about 7500 sqft of painting if my calculations are correct. Do you professionals use spray guns for jobs this large? When doing a repaint of the same color, will you at times prep the surface and put on one coat of the good stuff (versus two coats of a lesser quality paint)? Would you roll the ceiling by hand to keep splatter mess to a minimum? There are not many windows or trim, mostly wide open walls-any idea on unit hours to complete a job such as this (for estimating length of time for renting a lift)?

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Old 02-15-2007, 01:20 AM   #2
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All the ideas are possibilities. It depends on what you want to do and how much you'll get paid.

What kind of prpperty is it? Office? Home? Community Center?

For anything except a private home you could consider one coat of good paint. A private home could still be done that way, but a room that large suggests that it would be a really nice home and top notch work should be done.

Spraying would be logical with walls that high.
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:01 AM   #3
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I've never tackled anything this large
You mean you are doing it yourself?
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Do you professionals use spray guns for jobs this large?
Not usually if it's an occupied repaint
But that is big
I'd consider it
(I've done larger by hand)

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When doing a repaint of the same color, will you at times prep the surface and put on one coat of the good stuff (versus two coats of a lesser quality paint)?
No
It's two coats good stuff
There is no "two coats lesser stuff vs. one coat good stuff"
Not when I'm bidding the job

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There are not many windows or trim, mostly wide open walls-any idea on unit hours to complete a job such as this (for estimating length of time for renting a lift)?
That depends on how fast the techs doing the work are
Or how fast you are, if it's just you
And whether you are spraying or rolling
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Usually I stick to smaller stuff, but would hire a guy or two for this job. It is a church sanctuary-empty most of the week so traffic would not be a problem and use of drop clothes for spraying would seem to be easy enough.

By 'good paint', I mean't a hi-guality SW paint instead of a 5 gallon bucket of contractor's paint from Lowe's .
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Old 02-15-2007, 08:54 AM   #5
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From your numbers your off a little, I came up with 7920 sqft that's about 35 gallons of paint and primer, I would brush and roll, with doing the job without knowing the window count it would take two of us two days to do ceiling and then walls, I would put two coats of top line paint. Don't cheap it out casue it will show, that is a good size room and any miss or light spots will stand out. Good Luck. oh my price would be in the 11k neighborhood.
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...It is a church sanctuary-empty most of the week so traffic would not be a problem and use of drop clothes for spraying would seem to be easy enough.
....I'm not so sure about that
I'm not a big sprayer, and if you're not either perhaps you might want to consider this opinion
With all that hardwood flooring and pews, overspray could be a problem
It goes everywhere
Maybe a spray guy might have it down, but I wouldn't
It'd take me a while to make sure it's taped off properly...a long while

Also the pews may interfere with the push-around
This could be key if using a sprayer
It could mean an auditorium lift (over-seat), or a very large scaffolding (as you couldn't push around a smaller one)
All these could be worked out/around to be sure, but it could mean a lot more time involved in getting the paint on the walls

Rolling with poles and ladders may be a viable, and possibly better, option for you
It depends on the details

Oh yeah, as a sanctuary I assume it does not have a flat ceiling?
How tall is the peak?
This could be an issue also

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By 'good paint', I mean't a hi-guality SW paint instead of a 5 gallon bucket of contractor's paint from Lowe's
So did I
That's exactly what I meant
But however, now that it's a commercial job I wouldn't be opposed to two coats of the Pittsburgh Speed Hide, IMO an underrated "contractor grade" paint that pushes into the "premium" arena
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:21 PM   #7
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the great thing about this place is it has chairs and everything can be removed leaving a wide open floor (except for hanging lights). 20' walls and the peak is around 28' (not sure).

thanks for the tips

I've used an ATV monster of a lift before when working on 35' ceilings-not sure it would fit through the double doors of this place!
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Old 02-15-2007, 03:33 PM   #8
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Im with Slick on this one, I wouldn't spray it.
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:28 PM   #9
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I'm the odd man out. I'd spray. Take a full day to mask and tarp (depending on how much you might need a helper. One day to spray pretty easy if all the prep and tarping is complete.

set up scaffolding with wheels and work from the top down.
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