They Want Smaller Nap.. Ugh. Options?

Will

I am a bit confused why 1 out of like 4 walls now the customer is unhappy with the 50/50 1/2 nap. They say they see it more with the blue. Well, I think the wife sees it more with the blue.

I have no plans on rolling the roll with less than 1/2. After doing 1 closet with 3/8th I learned my lesson. I also speced that when I said I would do the other rooms.

But are there any other options? Could I apply the paint to the walls like normal with the 1/2" nap then back roll with a short nap? Would this get me anywhere? Maybe a really short 3/16th or something so it wouldn’t suck up a lot of paint if I loaded it up and backrolled?

Trying to make them happy, but I don't really see the problem when to me it looks the same as all the other walls which they are thrilled about.

Thanks once again

ProWallGuy

Time to stand tall and tell them you were trusted enough to be hired to do the job, and you will choose the proper tools for the job. If they don't like that, then........ you know, tell them where to go.

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Will

Well if it came to me having to roll a whole wall with 3/8th.. Im just not doing it.

but if I could backroll it with a smaller, I wouldn't mind. Its not that big of a space. They have other work as well, so I want to do my best to keep them happy.

AAPaint

They're allready nit-picking you to death, and you want more? That 1/2" 50/50 you're using is one of the finest naps on the market, period. A 3/8" nap is going to cause you to have to sling paint all over the walls just to keep it wet enough to paint one stroke, which causes things like flashing.

Aren't you using the Aqua Velvet on those walls? I just don't get it. They are being way over-critical of your work, and should also understand that using a thinner nap can cause even MORE flaws to show.

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Will

Well I am not even going to attempt to get the painton the wall with anything less than then 50/50, but just thought I could roll over it once its on the wall from the 1/2 with a smaller nap and kind of smooth that out.. Or does it not work that way?

And yep.. Using Aqua velvet. They just don’t like the nap patterns I guess for some reason.. Yea, just on this one room. Don’t ask me. They look the exact same to me.

Only reason I am even listening at this point is that they have been pretty good to work for upto this point. We did a lot of other work on their house, this paint job in this one room has been the only thing they have brought up. So I am giving them a little slack. I would only consider trying to smooth it out once its up with 1/2" though.. If that doesn’t work, I guess they will just have to live with it.

George Z

[QUOTE=Will]Well I am not even going to attempt to get the painton the wall with anything less than then 50/50, but just thought I could roll over it once its on the wall from the 1/2 with a smaller nap and kind of smooth that out.. Or does it not work that way?

And yep.. Using Aqua velvet. They just don’t like the nap patterns I guess for some reason.. Yea, just on this one room. Don’t ask me. They look the exact same to me.

Only reason I am even listening at this point is that they have been pretty good to work for upto this point. We did a lot of other work on their house, this paint job in this one room has been the only thing they have brought up. So I am giving them a little slack. I would only consider trying to smooth it out once its up with 1/2" though.. If that doesn’t work, I guess they will just have to live with it.[/QUOTE

You can't go back and re-roll Aqua Velvet, you will have very rough walls.
You have to wait until it dries and what is the point of doing an unnecessary coat?

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Will

I was probably unclear.. I have to do another coat anyway. I was going to do a light sanding and for the last coat what I meant was..

Get the paint on the wall with the 1/2" nap and immediately reroll with a smaller nap. Would this give a smoother texture from the smaller nap? There is no way I am going to roll only with the small nap, but I wouldn't mind if I could just roll it out with a very short nap once I got the paint on the wall from the 1/2

George Z

We use 3/8 very often on smooth walls. The finish quality is amazing.
A Wooster "superfab" 3/8 may have the capacity of most 1/2" nap anyway.

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Glasshousebltr

Small naps work good.............. but if me and fuzzy bear don't get at least 30 minutes on our midday mat we get grouchy.

Bob

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painter77

Agree with G.Z.

On some walls and when applying a finish other than a flat, the overall finish quality from a 3/8 is worth the effort -subtler, more 'refined...'

A 3/8 nap may hold about 30% less paint than a 1/2, hence about 30% 'slower' time-wise, yet if you, Will, use a 18", or 15" (or is it 12"?) 3/8 nap, time would be no longer an issue (a 18/15/12 3/8 is way faster than a 9" 1/2"). Of course if you don't mind a bit heavier, or a bit more cumbersome for some small walls, of a longer nap..

painter77

Yes, it would give smoother texture, if the paint is evenly spread out/not too heavy from the first 1/2" application. Though this 'smoother texture' does not completely hide the existing rougher 1/2 textures, but in a way it helps to make the wall look smoother overall at least from a distance, and hopefully make your customer happier.

Some customers tend to have a built-in magnifying glass in their eyes ...

Bret

I would tell the yuppie to deal with it, unless they are willing to pay you to redo it. Get the job done and get out, when dealing with those people.
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