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Old 10-30-2017, 06:22 PM   #1
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I've taken referrals from a number of designers. Most are "hands off" wanting only to see their chosen paint done well, and they do seem to require more in the way of service...

But while I see their need to integrate the trades (mainly finish trades) is it really their place to act on point/similar to GC ? The problem here is they are color and fabric pickers, generally not too familiar with the process of executing. Everybody wants to be in control.

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I use to do work for one and everything seemed difficult all the time because she would always design things out of the ordinary. One the other hand the money was good. The only reason I quit her was because I moved.

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Generally want special treatment and special prices and special products.

Generally a total pia.
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Generally want special treatment and special prices and special products.

Generally a total pia.
When you subtract their percentage what's left?
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Everybody wants to be in control.
This is usually the case no matter who hires you.
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This is usually the case no matter who hires you.
They are referring...
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Before going design/build I did a lot of work for various designers. I view them like salespeople and always add a small percentage onto their projects for never-ending changes and the histrionics they bring to the table. Unless you can generate enough business on your own, I wouldn't cut them completely out.
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Turn the tables and question their fabric choices.
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I've taken referrals from a number of designers. Most are "hands off" wanting only to see their chosen paint done well, and they do seem to require more in the way of service...

But while I see their need to integrate the trades (mainly finish trades) is it really their place to act on point/similar to GC ? The problem here is they are color and fabric pickers, generally not too familiar with the process of executing. Everybody wants to be in control.
You aren't describing an interior designer, you are talking about an interior decorator.

My wife is in her third year of interior design school. She's getting her NKBA cert. Designers in fact have to know CAD and basic construction methods.

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Very basic, depending on the designer, most of them don't know it very well at all..............
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There is the legal question of whether they can act as GC. Taking money from customers and then redistributing it. Isn't this in the capacity of a GC?

Their problem, of maintaining how they want the project to end out as they see it, may be compounded by the reality that some of us in the trades can come off as a tad headstrong. Perhaps they think it as no match for a sensitive nature?

So here then comes their stamp wet with not enough ink..."CONTROL".
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There is the legal question of whether they can act as GC. Taking money from customers and then redistributing it. Isn't this in the capacity of a GC?

Their problem, of maintaining how they want the project to end out as they see it, may be compounded by the reality that some of us in the trades can come off as a tad headstrong. Perhaps they think it as no match for a sensitive nature?

So here then comes their stamp wet with not enough ink..."CONTROL".
I work for one who is more like a GC, I bill her, she bills the client. She is easy to work with and pays fast.
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There is the legal question of whether they can act as GC. Taking money from customers and then redistributing it. Isn't this in the capacity of a GC?

Their problem, of maintaining how they want the project to end out as they see it, may be compounded by the reality that some of us in the trades can come off as a tad headstrong. Perhaps they think it as no match for a sensitive nature?

So here then comes their stamp wet with not enough ink..."CONTROL".
Not really, they simply need to abide by the laws that govern a GC. Our state has no such laws so they are free to act in any capacity the choose.
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I work for one who is more like a GC, I bill her, she bills the client. She is easy to work with and pays fast.
The designer I'm working with now is turning out to be unusually fair-minded. With me they'll get that right back, just like their client received. Things don't have to be so dog-eat-dog. Actually I'll look forward to working with them... it's all about going beyond, no matter what you do.

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Worked for many. They are a odd bunch. They suck out of their clients.


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Designers run the gamut, just like us tradesman.

Personally, I think that most designers massively over estimate the value they add to a project and charge way to much per hour.

I've worked on projects where the GC and the designer were battling over who was sourcing items because the designer wanted the markup. The designer didn't understand that the GC wanted to source everything because of his warranty on the project. We all know there is a no way a designer would warranty anything beyond what a MFG will cover.


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...because the designer wanted the markup.

Some charge 30 to 40% of billed out work, some consultancy fees, some direct % to contractors, hourly, etc.

When you hear "that's not enough" after presenting your bid, you get a better idea ...

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Anyone run into territorial issues among their local Designer or Decorator group, wanting to claim you as their own? I myself haven't but get the sense this could happen. Are some of the more prominent designers different in this way?

"He's my painter!"

I used to do regular work for a custom builder, that when used as a reference for a larger gov't project, tried to sneak this in as payback ... the ole "I'm your employer" on our follow on conversation -- but not in the "technical sense", when pressed.

Careful who you thank and how you do it! Some see it as a door opening.

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