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Spraying Vs Rolling
Hey All,
I'm a stone brick mason without a great deal of knowledge regarding painting/staining. We just purchased a 25 yo complex with original cedar siding. Can someone please let me know what the pro/cons are of spraying vs rolling. It seems to me that a sprayer would apply a very thin covering? |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Well spraying is a much faster way to do it but, You will use alot more product, you have to worry about where all the over spray is going. I feel you would have to do alot more prep to spray. Rolling you use less product you have more control, and you can get it in the creaves better. I would use a 6in wooly roller cover it holds alot of product and would fit the siding better. I have always roller it. I spray but not outside.
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
if you have large walls without a lot of windows and doors I would spray and back brush - It is much faster than rolling and the back brushing of the material pushes the material into the cracks. You should back brush if you roll also.
On a project like this i would recommend against spray - too many windows |
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A bit abrasive.
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
What kind of fresh hell is that?!?
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Yeah that would be a ball to watch someone out there spraying away
all those roofs would look really nice with over spray![]() That house is all about brsh and roll, cut it in and roll it out, spray and back brsh waste of time, to much risk with over spray ![]() www.frankawitz.net |
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A bit abrasive.
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Re: Spraying Vs RollingQuote:
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Thanks for all the info. I intend to hire a real painter. The problem is one of the quotes Ive received from a dodgy contractor who assures me that just spraying without back rolling cutting is sufficient. Comments will be appreciated.
Thanks |
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A bit abrasive.
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Re: Spraying Vs RollingQuote:
If the substrate is clean and free of any contaminates, with a good spray guy pulling the trigger back rolling is not always necessary. If you have a question about your contractor's credibility or abilities to provide a professional grade finish you should ask to see homes he has done in the past, along with some referrals. Are (good) painters hard to come by in your area?
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
You don't have to back roll or back brush anything.
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Spray the sh!t out of it, I do like to back roll on some projects though. A sprayer actually builds up a much heavier coat of paint than either a roller or brush, hope that helps put that thin coat idea to rest. Of course I'm assuming the trigger man knows how to spray.
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Anvil why not post some pictures, so we can see what your dealing with, cause you said you have shakes that are being painted? that picture Nav put up is nice, gets good feed back on how each painter looks at the house and how they would paint it. I would like to know what some of you guys would bid that monster at
just seeing the one side i would figure it at about two weeks worth of work for 5 guys, what would you guys says?www.frankawitz.net |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() These were all spray jobs. |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Really
you didn't brush and roll Mike LoL nice workhey Mike how long did it take you to spray out that Mall, looks like a few acres that was built on. how many guys did you have working? Last edited by Frankawitz; 03-22-2009 at 08:41 AM. |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
its a Condominium complex we completed last summer. Took 3 summers to paint with a 5 man crew and I sold it for about $380K as a base bid with $125K in Change Orders (replacement of rotting cedar) The total job came in at 36% profit. The owner had an account with SW so all of the material was supplied by owner - South walls got full A-100 oil prime and 2 coats of flat Duration, east west and north sides got 2 coats of solid latex stain except all dark brown trim got the A-100 and Duration treatment.
Sorry to mess up your post ANVIL but if your going to hire a pro call Southwest Companies, Inc. out of Cleveland.....we travel. |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
NAV,
You said you guys just finished that complex, why is it in some of the pictures you posted there are stains on handrails plus there are stains on the clapboard siding? Don't you have the finish painting pictures?www.frankawitz.net |
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
We always backbrush the first coat on claps, shingles and vertical wood siding.
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Re: Spraying Vs RollingQuote:
those pics were saved on my laptop. here is a work in progress pic. |
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A bit abrasive.
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Re: Spraying Vs Rolling
Oh, I see the fresh hell also received some scaffold treatment. Did you move it all over the Kingdom and back or did you sub a scaffold contractor?
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Re: Spraying Vs RollingQuote:
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