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paint slinger · 10-01-2006, 10:43 PM

Considering building or buying a pre fab spray booth to spray doors and trim packages....Local lumber Co wants me to paint 75 interior six panel doors a month. Any one ever do this?

Richard · 10-02-2006, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by paint slinger

Considering building or buying a pre fab spray booth to spray doors and trim packages....Local lumber Co wants me to paint 75 interior six panel doors a month. Any one ever do this?

Although, I've never needed to purchase a booth, I have definitely transformed a few basements to 'act' as spray booths. A plastic bubble, with a window fan.....

I was also the paint department supervisor in a restoration company and had the pleasure of using the HVLP spray booth for all the trim that got restored. I think it had around 9 filters recycling all of the air in the room every 2 minutes. It was sick!

So, yes...I have used booths, but no.....I havent actually purchased prefab ones......but good luck~sounds like a fun job

are they paying for the booth? I think they are quite pricey and where will you put it? I also thought they were quite large...

**ProWallGuy** · 10-02-2006, 07:24 AM

If you have a garage, or decent storage building, you could make one easier and cheaper than buying one.

AFI · 10-02-2006, 07:47 AM

If you want to buy one cost around $4000.00 to $5000.00 w/no assembling. But if you have a nice room you can dedicate one as a spray both. You will need good fluorescent lamps, air filter and exhaust fan. You can used a old a/c handle unit, remove the coil and install a good HEPA filter.

Put your money on a nice spray gun, a Graco 4900 PROCOMP HVLP Sprayer will make your work easier.

Good look

Art

paint slinger · 10-02-2006, 09:21 PM

NO I have to purchase or pay for it my self....found a prefab basic booth with lights, exaust fan & filters for 3,900.00. 27 L by 12 W.
have to install in my garage....could build one for around 1,500.00.
The local wood store will pay me 40.00 a door (blank) and around 50-70 doors a month so it wont take to long to recoup my money...but have to insulate and heat the garage and it gets cold in Illinois, figured I could install a mobile home furnace pretty cheap. Any way then I would be set up to paint trim packages and doors for customers.

Joewho · 10-02-2006, 09:49 PM

Go for it. Not only do you have an account to justify the cost, you can start doing more work in the booth. Great selling point, best quality.

I worked at a shop that had a heated booth, with chains to hang the doors on. The chains were attached to wheels on a rail at the top.

The rail made a circle around the room, so we could hang a lot of doors, do both sides and edges and then slide them around the room.

I like the booth idea because it's dust free.

I rented a shop once with the idea of taking trim paks from construction sites. this would free up space on site for the gc and it would let me do my thing without interrference. Downside is that gc's don't want to let the materials off site for fear of not getting every single piece back. Also, sometimes there is hardware involved.

Hope this helps.

AFI · 10-10-2006, 02:42 PM

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Considering building or buying a pre fab spray booth to spray doors and trim packages....Local lumber Co wants me to paint 75 interior six panel doors a month. Any one ever do this?

Take a look to this

http://www.speedpainting.com/

Richard · 10-10-2006, 04:19 PM

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Take a look to this

http://www.speedpainting.com/

I've used these door deckers before- they do make work with doors SO easy

**Leo G** · 10-10-2006, 06:51 PM

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Considering building or buying a pre fab spray booth to spray doors and trim packages....Local lumber Co wants me to paint 75 interior six panel doors a month. Any one ever do this?

It really depends on what you plan on spraying and if you plan on doing it legally. If you will be spraying water borne paints and primers you can get away with minimal restrictions. You will still need a fan that is powerful enough to pull 100 ft of air per minute through the booth. That is if your booth is 8' tall and 12' wide you will need a fan that is capable of pulling 9600 CFM. Actually it will need more because of filter resistance and buildup of paint on the filters. If you plan on spraying oil or lacquer based primers and paints the story gets more complicated. You will need to have explosion proof fans, lights and switches. The heating unit will need to be isolated by a flame and spark proof heat exchanger. The heater will need to be very large because of the airflow that is require to keep the room clean.

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I was also the paint department supervisor in a restoration company and had the pleasure of using the HVLP spray booth for all the trim that got restored. I think it had around 9 filters recycling all of the air in the room every 2 minutes. It was sick!

This spray room is totally inadequate by OSHA standards. That is unless the room is 200 ft long. The air MUST be fresh and CANNOT be recycled for any reason. My spray room is 18 ft deep and the air is replenished 5 1/2 times a minute. The room is 18' wide and 9' tall, I have a fan the pulls about 17,000 CFM, this gives me some latitude for filters and clogging.

If you are going to be doing this without regulations in mind

a garage with a fan in the window and the garage door open slightly will do a fair job. Plan on spending a mint to keep it warm with the air flowing through it though.

I've done a lot or research and built a good spray room if you need to ask any questions I'm your guy.

paint slinger · 10-10-2006, 08:46 PM

Can you post any pics of your booth.......and where did you buy your fan and filters?

**Leo G** · 10-10-2006, 09:27 PM

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Can you post any pics of your booth.......and where did you buy your fan and filters?

Pictures can be found at this link:
http://www.woodweb.com/galleries/shop/posts/225.html

I got my fan through Grainger.com I bought the 3HP 36" tubeaxial fan with the hazardous location fan. It pulls about 17,000CFM.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml

I can't remember

the name of the company I get my filters through right now, I have the catalog at my shop and I'll try to post it for you tomorrow. Oh wait a second brain fart relieved.... Camger is the company name, and here is the info I have when I got my filters. You can call Jim Zervins at Camger and he will give you a hand with your filtration needs as he did for me. Good guy.
From: j.zervins@camger.com (Jim Zervins)

Hi Leo;

I'm the equipment manager @ Camger and would like for you to call me @ 508-528-5787 to discuss your filter needs.

painterjim · 10-10-2006, 09:49 PM

Leo,
That's one nice set up you have there. The cherry entertainment center is most excellant. Good job!

**Leo G** · 10-10-2006, 09:54 PM

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Leo,
That's one nice set up you have there. The cherry entertainment center is most excellant. Good job!

Thanks Jim,
Take a look at my website/portfolio:
http://www.hometown.aol.com/lrgwoodcrafting/index.html

painterjim · 10-10-2006, 10:28 PM

You have skills. Nice work. How did you get those kitchen cabs to have that "distressed" look?

**Leo G** · 10-10-2006, 10:34 PM

You bang'em up a bit then you use a bunch of layered oil base paints that are rubbed through to look like wear and tear. The cabinets have about 9 coats of paint/primer on them and as you put them on (after they dry) you rub off certain areas with steel wool to let the layer below show through. Lots of time and patience. The paint job cost about as much as the cabinets.

As for skills---I made the website myself too. Now I'm just braggin' (but I did do it myself). See what happens when you tell me I do good stuff.

I try to stay with the more modern finishes, you know resin alkyd stains and dyes that dry in 10 minutes, pre-cat lacquers and conversion varnishes because of speed of drying. The finish on those cabinets took weeks to get done because of drying times. Patient clients.

paint slinger · 10-11-2006, 09:59 PM

Leo
Thanxs I see now what a proper spray booth should look like and what elemets that need incorporated..........

**Leo G** · 10-11-2006, 10:13 PM

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Leo
Thanxs I see now what a proper spray booth should look like and what elemets that need incorporated..........

This is probably overkill for what you have in mind but the basic elements are there for you to draw upon. Good Luck

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