Should I prime these soffits or just paint? - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Entrepreneur · 04-14-2009, 12:32 AM

Hey I am going to be scrapping some loose paint off some soffits which are covered and outside of the rain etc.

Theres going to be bare would, but seeing as how they are not exposed to the sun or elements do I really need to oil prime to seal up the wood first?

Or can I just paint over top with an acrylic paint.....

Thanks!

Faron79 · 04-14-2009, 01:10 AM

Yep, use an Exterior Oil primer on ALL surfaces, once all dust is cleaned-off.
This ensures even bonding & gloss-levels of your new paint.

Of course, you need to feather-sand all scraped areas, so no "ridges" are visible.
Then...prime, and apply 2 coats of your exterior Satin or Semi-gloss paint.

Faron

Mr. Mike · 04-15-2009, 01:55 AM

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DEFINITELY Prime...

Wrong!

You do not need to prime, use a top of the line lifetime warranty self priming paint and get this done with one coat! And that is no joke.

chris n · 04-15-2009, 03:30 AM

You do not need to prime, use a top of the line lifetime warranty self priming paint and get this done with one coat! And that is no joke.

Lifetime warranty paint? Joke

Self priming paint,joke.

One coat? Bigger joke.

As Faron said,do it the right way, not the hucksters way.

**genecarp** · 04-15-2009, 04:23 AM

a painter asking how to paint

hmmm

Mr. Mike · 04-15-2009, 10:17 AM

Chris,

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Lifetime warranty paint? Joke

Self priming paint,joke.

One coat? Bigger joke.

As Faron said,do it the right way, not the hucksters way. Today 02:55 AM

Your Joking right? Cause that's all I use is Lifetime self priming paint!

StefanC · 04-15-2009, 12:40 PM

You can use a self-priming lifetime paint and it will probably last just fine. I normally hit any exterior bare wood with some oil primer just for good measure though.

jd6387 · 04-15-2009, 05:29 PM

Hey Mr. Mike,

What paint are you using to one coat with no primer??

Mr. Mike · 04-15-2009, 07:44 PM

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lifetime paint
Hey Mr. Mike,

What paint are you using to one coat with no primer??

Sherwin Williams: Duration
Benjamin Moore: Aura
Porter Paints: Permanizer

jd6387 · 04-15-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mike

Sherwin Williams: Duration
Benjamin Moore: Aura
Porter Paints: Permanizer

I appreciate it. I know those paints, just making sure you didn't have another I missed or was new. I'm in Dallas, but my wife and I are from Louisville. still got property at land-between-the lakes. Thanks.

rbsremodeling · 04-15-2009, 09:11 PM

Whose house is it?

Faron79 · 04-15-2009, 11:56 PM

Even if it's C2 Exterior, Aura, Duration, ......
(and we SELL C2)

Priming will only help, never hinder.

The risk of sheen-variation is just too great, especially on bare wood portions...

MY little saying..."Priming SOLVES many problems, but creates NONE."

Faron

chris n · 04-16-2009, 04:05 AM

Your Joking right? Cause that's all I use is Lifetime self priming paint!

If you are comfortable using these products on exterior bare wood,good for you. I will stick to the PROVED method of slow dry oil primer and 100% acrylic top coats

Mr. Mike · 04-16-2009, 07:05 AM

Faron and Chris don't trust the can.;lol

Mr. Mike · 04-16-2009, 08:59 AM

Here's one can for you...

Exterior Paints

Duration® Exterior Acrylic Latex

Product Literature (PDF 1416KB)

Our advanced exterior formula features PermaLast® technology for the most durable, longest-lasting exterior coating available for resisting peeling and blistering.
Features:

One-coat, self-priming performance on repaints, two coats on new work
Superior hide
Thicker, more flexible coating
Maximum resistance to blistering and peeling
Guaranteed to last (see label for warranty information)

Flat Data Sheet MSDS Satin Data Sheet MSDS Gloss Data Sheet MSDS

Mr. Mike · 04-16-2009, 09:41 AM

I give everyone an awesome warranty to go with these products and services I provide them.

http://www.mrmikespainting.com/paint...ouisville.html

capital city · 04-16-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chris n

Your Joking right? Cause that's all I use is Lifetime self priming paint!

If you are comfortable using these products on exterior bare wood,good for you. I will stick to the PROVED method of slow dry oil primer and 100% acrylic top coats

Duration is not proven? Ive proven it over and over again with no call backs. Duration has made me alot of money and allowed me to keep busy with all the hacks low-balling everything. Ive been able to skip the priming step and cut cost a little. It does cover in 1 coat in some situations but most of my exteriors get 2. Mr Mike I'm right over here in Frankfort, if you got any Duration exteriors you want to sub out give me a call.

DRC · 04-18-2009, 05:43 PM

prime it with an acrylic bonding primer. the days of oil are on the way out.

Mr. Mike · 04-19-2009, 12:30 AM

These primers you guys speak of are way over rated. Acrylic or oil.

nEighter · 04-19-2009, 01:17 AM

only time I have ran into problem priming anything is when I have used wood filler Bondo (R) to fill spots. It is actually better to apply that to the wood it's self, vs. priming it and then applying. For what ever reason, it likes the raw wood better than the primer. It pops right off the primer. If raw, prime, if any type of factory primer/paint is there, scuff and paint and you should be fine. Really all primer is is a layer that will accept paint. Previous paint layers/factory primer is okay, just make sure there is something that the new coating can bite into. 1 coat paints are a marketing ploy. You ALWAYS have to go REALLY thick, or 2 coat with them... that is if you really care about what you are doing.