Sherwin Williams Is Starting To Irritate Me

Dorman Painting

Their price increases are a frikkin joke, in the last five years it seems that paint has gone up considerably more than other products. But this post isn't about their rising costs, which does piss me off.

Here's my beef, everytime I buy a gallon of paint the next day my mailbox is cluttered with a bill from them. I'm talking every time I buy paint, shouldn't they just send out a bill at the end of the month instead of cluttering my mailbox every time I purchase material from them. They started doing this recently, they weren't doing this two or three years ago. They would just send you ONE bill at the end of the month, that's how most business's conduct business. This is getting on my nerves.

AFI

They increase the prices because they need to pay for the paper they expense every time we buy a gallon of paint

Danahy

General Paints (Where I get my sundries) does that too. Makes the bookkeeping just a little bit more of a pain than it needs to be.

Gordo

ICI used to do this to me. It was absolutely ridiculus the amount of paper work.

Remedy: pay with CC.

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Looks like some pros were here.

camaroman2125

I buy most of my paints from ICI and they just send me a bill at the end of every month. I like sherwin williams products, But it seems whenever you go in there to buy something you had better brought some lube with ya for when they bend you over the counter.

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SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES - NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.

lornmastro

sherwin williams sold?? my name to every advertiser this side of the mississippi...keep getting all this advertizing in the mail...in addition everytime i get a can of paint its a different price!!even if it the same exact paint/color...annoying

Terrence

WTF Guys?
Don't you see we have buying power?
Why don't we ALL work on wording a letter with our collective complaints, and then we all can mail it in every time we pay the bill so they are inundated with the same message over and over again.

The power in this idea lies in all of us doing it, and the message coming from all the USA and Canada so the message is CLEAR:

We communicate
We cooperate
We don't like your funny business
We are prepared to take our collective dollars elsewhere

I don't think they want to lose hundreds (or thousands) of contractor accounts across the nation. Particularly when they realize that we are talking to one another.

Maybe this is a radical approach, but my Mom taught me to think BIG, and take no crap.

Richard

The constant slips annoy me too. Although, it helps me keep track of what I've spent. So it's a "good annoyance" and.........

gas went up because of 'demand' and it's the same with SW paint~ people want it, they go to buy it regardless of price

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painterofeveryt

Terrence, is that what you are saying? it is indeed a great idea ! lets see what happens next......

AAPaint

Umm....your customers should be paying for the paint, and you should be getting a markup on it for pick up, delivery, and handling. If you are marking it up a percentage, then more expensive paint means more markup. I'm piling up work left and right using SW paints. I charge at least 20% on top of retail for the paint, and there is no issue.

Paint is not a painter's expense. It's the customers. I don't pay for paint, rags, caulk, putty, primers, or anything. There is a margin for all of this stuff in every job I sell.

I'm not going to boycott any paint manufacturer because ultimately I let the decision lie with the customer about that anyway. I recommend the line I like, and ask if they prefer something else. Usually, I get to use what I like.

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-AAPaint

AA Quality Painting & Pressure Washing LLC
Jacksonville Painters
Jacksonville, FL.

SgtBaldy

If sherwin is what gets me the job then that is what i use, But at the customers expense. If they love sherwin they usually don't mind the markup.

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Terrence

aww man! I just wanted to lead a revolution.

KellyPainting

Terrence, I'm with you... how about walmart...I'm getting sick of them!

Wait...Dunkin Doughnuts... ya the biggest legal drug dealers around... get you hooked (strung out)
on their legal..HIGH....they should be procesecuted!

boman47k

I think if the problem got severe enough, Terrence has a good idea. Help keep cost down for ho's. Might make some of them make a quicker decision on whether to have painting done or not. Sometimes a fast rolling nickel is better than a slow rolling dime.

Paintpimp

FYI, You can request the SW store that services your account not to send out the mailings. You would only receive your statement at the beginning of the month.

4thGeneration

My Grandpa always charged cost plus which is a pretty sweet deal, but that was a while back when he mixed the colors on the job. What is the most effective way in your opinion of giving a price quote? Square foot, room by room, labor only plus paint or with the paint built into the price? Also, when it comes to multiple colors my Grandpa always charged $150 per color choice. What is your take on multiple colors?

boman47k

Regardless of the area being painted?

4thGeneration

Yes. My Grandpa was a master painter that was in high demand and never had to advertise. His explanation was the clean up between colors and the time it took to switch a man that was on the clock to another room to be painted. This was also during the oil based days.

boman47k

Sorry, I was thinking trim one color, ceiling one color, walls one color =450.oo! Have a better understanding now.

AAPaint

I price everything by sq. ft. of wall space or ln. ft. on trim, and that's it. I figure how many hours multiplied by hourly rate, plus materials (and mat. markup), plus overhead, plus profit. I give the customer one single price with no breakdown on material or labor. I make sure I'm thorough in explaining what they get, but I still only give one price.

For multiple colors, I include up to three wall colors, and charge $150 per color over and above that.

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-AAPaint

AA Quality Painting & Pressure Washing LLC
Jacksonville Painters
Jacksonville, FL.