Sherwin Williams primers - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

ChuckEA · 05-03-2006, 09:32 PM

What do you guys think of the SW primer system that uses dry tinted as opposed to color tints? I'm considering it for a job where I'm applying a deeply saturated blue over new drywall in an eggshell finish. Seems like a good approach to me but thought I would check with you guys before I proceeded. Thanks in advance for your input.

**ProWallGuy** · 05-03-2006, 09:35 PM

Never heard of it. Do you have link to more info on it?

ChuckEA · 05-03-2006, 10:01 PM

i said "dry" but what i meant was grey. Sw system uses grey tinted primer as opposed to a color tint

lxdollarsxl · 05-03-2006, 10:08 PM

Well dont know about using it under blue, but i did use grey under deep red and it came out far better than i expected.

**slickshift** · 05-03-2006, 10:09 PM

Hmmm...well gray is the only color I tint primer
Then only for reds and blues

I'd try it

btw-just in case you don't know the SWP Deep Accents is great for those deep colors....I haven't tried it in blue yet, but so far I've been very impressed

Woz the Painter · 05-03-2006, 10:18 PM

I've used it, don't like it. I much prefer having primer tinted to 50% of finish color. I used a bluish SW recomended primer for a deeptone gold brown, and finish did not cover well. If it was tinted to 50%, coverage would be much better.

**ProWallGuy** · 05-03-2006, 10:20 PM

Gray primer works, but IMHO no better or worse than color-tinted primer. My only reason to use it would be to buy in bulk for a large job, to avoid getting several different colors in primer.

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Originally Posted by slickshift

btw-just in case you don't know the SWP Deep Accents is great for those deep colors....I haven't tried it in blue yet, but so far I've been very impressed

I agree. That paint hides probably better than any other I have used for deeep tones.

AAPaint · 05-04-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slickshift

Hmmm...well gray is the only color I tint primer
Then only for reds and blues

I'd try it

btw-just in case you don't know the SWP Deep Accents is great for those deep colors....I haven't tried it in blue yet, but so far I've been very impressed

You meant Color Accents paint...I have used it for blue, red, yellow, black cherry, and a few others. Very good stuff. Has a very thick consistency, and if you're not careful you'll get hat bands from your cut in when using satin...

Woz the Painter · 05-06-2006, 12:12 AM

Again I hate to disagree, but I will. Try SW's primer recommendation, then have them tint primer to 50% of finish formula. You will have much better results across the spectrum with a 50% primer tint.

**slickshift** · 05-06-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Woz the Painter

Again I hate to disagree, but I will. Try SW's primer recommendation, then have them tint primer to 50% of finish formula. You will have much better results across the spectrum with a 50% primer tint.

You already said that Woz

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Originally Posted by Woz the Painter

I've used it, don't like it. I much prefer having primer tinted to 50% of finish color. I used a bluish SW recomended primer for a deeptone gold brown, and finish did not cover well. If it was tinted to 50%, coverage would be much better.

Though I gotta say, I'd certainly not use a blue primer for a gold brown
Who was running the SWP store that day, the Ben Moore Rep?

...sorry...maybe that's supposed to work
It just sounds...not right to me

Woz the Painter · 05-07-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slickshift

You already said that Woz

Though I gotta say, I'd certainly not use a blue primer for a gold brown
Who was running the SWP store that day, the Ben Moore Rep?

...sorry...maybe that's supposed to work
It just sounds...not right to me

Hey now... that was the SW recommended primer, that's why I said their system was BS, again I suggest tinting primer to 50% of finish formula, or for those who don't comprehend percentages, half of the finish formula. I rest my case!

AAPaint · 05-07-2006, 07:09 PM

Yup, that is SW's "color prime" system. On your SW fan deck it should have a "P" on the back if that color is recommended for their color prime system. Me personally....I prefer a tinted primer and two topcoats of whatever, skip the color prime stuff.

Woz the Painter · 05-09-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AAPaint

Yup, that is SW's "color prime" system. On your SW fan deck it should have a "P" on the back if that color is recommended for their color prime system. Me personally....I prefer a tinted primer and two topcoats of whatever, skip the color prime stuff.

Right on AA, just because SW tells you something, doesn't make it gospel!

ChuckEA · 05-14-2006, 07:52 AM

Thought I would supply some feedback on my own question. I tried the SW color primer system with a deep blue flat topcoat (SW Color Accents "Loyal Blue" # 6510) The recommended primer was a medium grey which covered bare sheetrock with a nice opaque base with one coat. The first topcoat provided very good coverage and the second gave me a very good result that provided an extremely close match to the color chip. Also, both the primer and the topcoats were easy to apply and gave good coverage.

Being a handyman, as opposed to a dedicated pro painter, I'm no expert on painting; but I would certainly recommend giving this stuff a try.

**slickshift** · 05-14-2006, 12:19 PM

Thanks for the update
Sounds like it worked out great

Woz the Painter · 05-14-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckEA

Thought I would supply some feedback on my own question. I tried the SW color primer system with a deep blue flat topcoat (SW Color Accents "Loyal Blue" # 6510) The recommended primer was a medium grey which covered bare sheetrock with a nice opaque base with one coat. The first topcoat provided very good coverage and the second gave me a very good result that provided an extremely close match to the color chip. Also, both the primer and the topcoats were easy to apply and gave good coverage.

Being a handyman, as opposed to a dedicated pro painter, I'm no expert on painting; but I would certainly recommend giving this stuff a try.

Glad it worked out for you Chuck, but with some colors it doesn't.