Sharing Information

Originally Posted by oldfrt

Why not tell all your competitors so they will be able to bid successfully against you?

Originally Posted by fine-lyfinished

no, i would charge more for that small of a job(but it would only take 2.5 hours)

Originally Posted by wizendwizard

Yet again this guy throws out more misinformation to allow HO's to use against a real contractor.

If you really believe it only takes 2.5 hours to install tile in any situation, YOU ARE NUTS!

Negotiations and contracts with HO = 4 to 8 hours
Materials aquisition = 2 hours to 3 weeks in some cases
Pretime for support of substructure = 8 to 12 hours
Proper installation of tile backer = 2 to 4 hours
Wait 24 hour minimum
Proper installation of tile = 24 hours
Wait 24 hours minimum
Proper installation of grout = 24 hours
Wait 24 hours minimum
Proper application of sealer (x2) = 1 hour + mimimum 6 to 8 hours wait time + 1 hour
Proper cleaning and buffing = 2 hours

Originally Posted by oldfrt

So you're going to give away what takes many of us years to hone in,because you think it's as simple as a courtesy to someone who asks?

Why not tell all your competitors so they will be able to bid successfully against you?

Then they won't be competitors at all,just a little more informed on your willingness to even the playing field so bidding becomes a mute point in gaining a project.

So,as you stated in OP:
If you want any more free advice just ask me, if i can help, I will.

I say:
Advice is worth only what what it cost you to give.
Seeing that you didn't work your way to gaining an insight on what you need to charge,than your advice is totally worthless.
The going rate is a myth,adopted by those that hope to drop into a new field,feet running,but blind to the variations in each project and/or individual overhead ,destined to trip over an unseen complication and fall into a financial hole.

Almost as bad as giving a Ballpark estimate before even seeing a project.

Seeing almost all your posts are about pricing,me thinks you need a tad more experience before you offer any pricing advice.

Originally Posted by bert0168

Or better yet, why not suggest he give the HO free advice on how to install the tile so they can do it themselves.

Since he is such a giving person.

Originally Posted by wizendwizard

Yet again this guy throws out more misinformation to allow HO's to use against a real contractor.

If you really believe it only takes 2.5 hours to install tile in any situation, YOU ARE NUTS!

Negotiations and contracts with HO = 4 to 8 hours
Materials aquisition = 2 hours to 3 weeks in some cases
Pretime for support of substructure = 8 to 12 hours
Proper installation of tile backer = 2 to 4 hours
Wait 24 hour minimum
Proper installation of tile = 24 hours
Wait 24 hours minimum
Proper installation of grout = 24 hours
Wait 24 hours minimum
Proper application of sealer (x2) = 1 hour + mimimum 6 to 8 hours wait time + 1 hour
Proper cleaning and buffing = 2 hours

Originally Posted by jarvis design

I have been doing bathroom renos for 20 years.

# of times I gave out a sq ft price - 0.0

I can tell you that I would rather stay home and clip coupons than go bust my a** for $3.00 or #3.50 sq ft!!

Originally Posted by fine-lyfinished

Dude! we were talking slab here, also they make a product called speedset for just such a use. grout in 2 hours. I've done many of these jobs. There is no negotiation. They call and say hey! 5x7 bath on slab how much? I say $200 see you on such a date, have the tile you like on site.

Originally Posted by Warren

So now were up to 6 bucks a square foot?
What happened to three fiddy?

Originally Posted by fine-lyfinished

I said in the original reply that 3fidy does not apply for such small jobs.

Originally Posted by Leo G

Thanks for that tidbit of information Darcy.

Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.

My eyes are bleeding.

For 200 bucks I will still hire you and still make more than you.

Start driving.

I supposed you cut around the toilet and caulk it.

Do you tell them to clean it and seal it too?

No more soup for you.

Originally Posted by fine-lyfinished

Why do you guys have such a hard time sharing information when it comes to pricing???

I've never seen a straight answer from anyone on this site when you reply to someones request for help in estimating a project.

It's not hard to think back to the last job you did and figure out if you made fair money on it, then answer the question.

Of course every job is different but there are some rules of thumb to go by and you should not be so stingy with the info when someone's gone to the trouble to ask for help.

To the guy that recently asked for help estimating an interior paint job of two rooms with an approx total of 6oo sq/ft: $2.25 per square foot is a rule of thumb for new construction painting.

Hey, that wasn't hard, i did not lose any money by sharing that info. Maybe I actually helped the trade by creating some consistancy in pricing.

If you want any more free advice just ask me, if i can help, I will.

Michael Helperperson2002@yahoo.com