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Old 02-24-2007, 06:19 PM   #1
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I just got done spraying trim out in a new construction house. I got a new sprayer and wasn't real used to what pressure setting. I've sprayed out lots of houses with no issues. However, when i got done with my bases for about two rooms I looked back and they were running like mad! I tried to take some floetrol paint mix and brush them out but it was too late. I don't know if i wasn't moving quickly enough or if i had too much floetrol. Do you think the paint will be cured enough by tomorrow to sand them out. The rest of the house turned out great. Doors, casings, windows look like glass. should i wait a few days or try and sand out tomorrow. HELP

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Old 02-24-2007, 06:27 PM   #2
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I just got done spraying trim out in a new construction house. I got a new sprayer and wasn't real used to what pressure setting. I've sprayed out lots of houses with no issues. However, when i got done with my bases for about two rooms I looked back and they were running like mad! I tried to take some floetrol paint mix and brush them out but it was too late. I don't know if i wasn't moving quickly enough or if i had too much floetrol. Do you think the paint will be cured enough by tomorrow to sand them out. The rest of the house turned out great. Doors, casings, windows look like glass. should i wait a few days or try and sand out tomorrow. HELP
Not being there and knowing what your weather is like up North I will give some advice geared to future application. Get your super to allow you to prime and finish one coat on all your base and loose trim like shoemold, cases and window sill wood work on saw horses and let dry before you stack it for install. I never add anything to paints. I have been at it long enough now that I am used to a few paints and how they work under any condition, but also do some sample spray techniques on some scraps at your house that do not matter. Hope it helps a bit.
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do you come and spray all finish coat after it is installed then? Thanks for advice. Any opinion on how long to wait till i try and sand it out. It is cold here. I am afraid it won't be ready to sand by tomorrow. I don't want it to gum up on me.
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I do not add anything to the paint either, used to put some japan drier in oil. It will take a couple days before the paint will be cured enough to sand without it gumming up.
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They are some pretty big runs. What grit should i start with? I hate having to let it sit for three days. It is going to drive me nuts thinking about it.
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At least it's the weekend right now. I know that's not much for condolences but it's better than it happening on a monday or tuesday.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:04 PM   #7
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yeah, except the homeowner has more time to see it now!!! I actually will probably start painting walls tomorrow. I will mask the bases off with paper. At least then i don't have to look at it until I can fix it!!!!!
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When I saw the topic I thought it was a post about Taco Bell
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I almost said something about that as soon as I posted it. I shoulda labeled it "I got the runs"!!!!
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do you come and spray all finish coat after it is installed then? Thanks for advice. Any opinion on how long to wait till i try and sand it out. It is cold here. I am afraid it won't be ready to sand by tomorrow. I don't want it to gum up on me.

When I worked new construction for my family we always did it this way.

We would caulk all wood that was up, prime, sand and spray two coats. Then we would sand walls, cut and roll two coats. Base, crown and loose trim would be primed, sanded and finished once. When crown was installed we would putty, caulk and brush one more coat on it. We always caulked and puttied base when it was installed, but would only brush finish it on bump out because you know how bad carpet scrapes on the base as well as carpet kicking to get it in place to be stretched. This is kind of a generic explanation, but if you would like a detailed explanation on how we did things let me know. We also rolled daylight walls solid on bump only.
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well depending on how big they are i would start with 80 or 100 grit then switch to 150 then finish it off with some 220. If you sand to soon it will gum up.
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thanks for the replies
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or I'll try some pepto for my runs
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Just my opinion, but I would have not let the runs or sags dry. Better to take a broad knife and rag and wipe them clean. then feather sand if needed.
Ive never seen a nasty run or sag sand out well enough to make them disappear. I did not notice in your post previous, but did the final coats run or was it in the prime coat?
Rule of thumb when spraying, multiple light coats for build is better than 1 heavy coat. Not to imply thats what happened.
The other issue, floetrol is used when paint is drying too fast, not as a common additive to increase spread rates (which some painters do) but inhibiting drytime and making it workable, I agree with previous posts , not adding anything or cutting material.
Good Luck Sanding........

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or I'll try some pepto for my runs
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sorry, couldn't resist
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That'll sure be a load off your mind!
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Old 02-25-2007, 03:38 PM   #17
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It was finish coat. i did try to wipe them off. However it made a huge mess. I know it is hard to get runs out. However, when wiping it off i felt like i was making a bigger mess.
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Ok, I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but but I can't resist. This topic is going right down the toilet......
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Ok, I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but but I can't resist. This topic is going right down the toilet......
Yes Del, here comes the slam, do you have anything to add to this topic? Or continue the verbal diahrea?
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