Re-paint Steps...How Do You Other Pros Do It?

Schmidt & Co

Can't make pizza right? Them is fighting words!

Frankawitz

I learned from a old timer(Ray Howell 48 years Painting, Union Contrator) and we always used oil base paints and we also cut in first that's the rule of oil,drywall was all primed with latex, all the trim was preped enamel under coated and ready for finish paint, we would roll out the ceilings let it set up then back roll, the same was done for walls, after we rolled out walls a cut in guy would come behind the guys rolling and lay the base off, then we would paint trim the next day all oil base enamel semi gloss, the only time we used tape was if you had cabinets right next to trim, but most of the time you had better be free handing it, cause Ray didn't believe a Painter needed tape for cutting in. So I learn to cut in straight lines, can still do it today.


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George Z

That is the exact sequence we use.
It is fast and efficient (we make money)
The lines are just perfect. We even guarantee straight lines in our proposal.

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Dan_Watson

Painters are our new plumbers....We need more spin off threads.

WisePainter

meh, I tape my baseboards only.
I do so in order to protect the baseboard from roller spatter, not to create a "straight line". How on earth does one not see the value of applying 1 1/2" tape along the bsaeboard in order to prevent the inevitable spatter?

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Mr. Mike

I make the prospect visualize the straight lines, I always point at the ceiling and trim and say at the same time, when we get done you will have very straight crisp lines every where, this house will become a show room. Do you have any questions before we move on to your pricing?

Chicago does make great pizzas, I drive 5 hours away to come eat them at a moments notice. I do know the painters are not moving here for a painting job , they always have a reason like family or what have you. We have a lot of folks from Chicago here in Louisville and a lot of Louisville folks living in Chicago we are like family. I don't know why Louisville is so much smarter and Chicago thinks they know everything but it makes for interesting conversations.

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vandyandsons

[quote=Mr. Mike;661512]Complete Room:

Paint Ceiling bringing some ceiling paint down on to the wall roughly 1/2 inch.

Paint all wood work except baseboards. Running a little trim paint on to the wall roughly 1/2 inch.

Cut in the walls up to all trim except the base using no tape or fired and leave a line that is so perfect you would think we used a laser. Run some of your cut wall paint over the lip of the baseboards.

Then when the walls are dry paint the stinking base, your little bristles should leave a crisp line along the wall.



At the beginning of the thread, i asked how you other pros do it. You did not answer my question until now.

Until your last post I thought you felt it was quicker and more productive to finish your walls completely, then run your whole trim package after that.

Now that I know that you run your trim before your walls and simply save the base for last, I understand you ways. Therefore the only thing we differ on is the baseboard painting. That to me does make sense and I do the same thing when time does not allow me to do it my preferred way.

Egos rain supreme on this forum and while we all say that there is more than one way to skin a cat, we think our way is best That is why we are the bosses.

See ya on the next thread and nice jousting.

ps- moving forward....dont talk about my little bristles, thats personal

vandyandsons

Easy Wise,

We all know you don't need tape to get a crisp line.

I mask my base for the same reason....but I do like the line it leaves too.

capital city

[quote=vandyandsons;661234]I guess Im an idiot because I said that I can paint the base as fast as you can tape it. I timed it today and it took 12 min to trim the base on a 18x 14 room. Now how fast can you tape it and then paint it [Edited per TOS and posting rules]. I usually finish the room in one day so I dont have time to wait for paint to dry to tape. And no wise I still dont get how you get that much spatter on the trim, I used Cashmere low lustre in a deep base today and didnt see a drop anywhere, not one drop and yes I roll fast. I rolled the same room in 15 min. Next time I get the chance I will try this whole tape thing again since you guys are so adament that its the ****, but I dont get it. Today I had 2 18x14 rooms with 3 doors, 5 windows, ceilings and patchwork. 1 coat celings, 2 coats walls, and 3 coats trim (black), and me and one other person got it done today. Can you tape guys do that?

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Mr. Mike

Easy Cap,
Pull in the horses. I think there was some confusion here early on. They are all confused. We are doing it all right here in KY. and Canada this trade must of started in Chicago and if you do what you always did you will get what you always got.


It is faster to tape than to paint! 100% sure of it! However if you are going to be painting the base boards taping them is overkill.

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vandyandsons

easy hillbilly,

i thought we put this to bed yesterday.

before you get all crazy patting yourself on the back, 2 man days in one room is nothing spectacular.

besides, i call BS on 2 counts-
1) Did you really apply 3 coats on the base in 12 minutes?
2) No splatter or fine sprinkle on your base?

on a one day rush job, I would have to cut in the trim too but i dont like doing it that way.

have fun french kissing your cousin Jed

Mr. Mike

Vand,

Do you have any Kentucky in you?

Just joking, thanks for posting.

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willworkforbeer

I dint read this whole thread but stick sand? On a repaint? What?

WisePainter

I want my finish to be free of boogers that are in the current finish left over from the previous painter...or more likely the HO.
Quick swipe to knock it all smooth.

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Mr. Mike

Yes sand the base and dust it off and then paint it.

I use a duster and some may use a stick cloth both should be ok.

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StefanC

Absolutely, takes 5 minutes a room.

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Riverside Paint

Cut and roll ceiling

Cut and roll walls

Paint trim

2" blue tape always applied to base prior to rolling walls

we mostly do high end repaints, use deep base colors roughly 30% of the time. taping baseboards is a time saver. it takes no time, and it looks way better than when we dont tape baseboards.

one specific reason i like to tape baseboards is because i like to run the roller alllll the way down the wall, i actually bounce the cover off the top of the base. after a room has been rolled, i have a trade mark finish technique that im afraid i cant share with the class but rest assured, its pretty damn slick and impossible to achieve without using tape.

StefanC

Whiz roll the edges....

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vandyandsons

vandyandsons

I think we were referring to sanding the walls actually. Ya know, a sanding head screwed to a rolling pole or something of the like. You know what we're talking about.

I agree though Mr. Mike, trim should be sanded and dusted before painting.