Purdy Colossus Roller Covers

Cache

Ahh .. I see what you are getting at.

Touch-up of satin and semi-gloss paints = not fun but doable.
Touch-up of satin and semi-gloss paints without use of roller = nightmare!!!!

WisePainter

we were all typing at the same time.

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WisePainter

Yes.
Touching up a semi is about the worst.

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Workaholic

Pain In The Ass

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Sean

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You spray trim?

WisePainter

Not a bread like customer that makes a great avocado sandwich then?



I will use that term in the future.

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Workaholic

Absolutly as much as i can. Top layer of crown where the crown is at the ceiling gets brushed lower is sprayed. Windows are brushed. wainscott and doors jambs and anything else is usually sprayed. This is new construction i am talking about. If it is an occupied repaint that is a different deal.

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Maybe, what she described when I spoke to her sounded sorta like what happens with a cheap cover and and "single-coat" paint. But she kept calling it stiple.

I'm not a painter, but rather just have a close relationship with my painter and help out sometimes. Not familiar with the term "tip off"?!

Cache

I've seen a couple different procedures for painting. As I mentioned, I have a close relationship with the painter and we work together frequently. Sometimes I look at his process and it seems like it could be sped up a bit if he changed the order of things. Especially since I will work with him on the trim install. I don't want to hijack this thread with off-topic requests, but would you mind PMing me your usual procedure so I can compare and see if I can save hime some unnecessary masking/brushwork?

Workaholic

Well what is your painters plan of attack? Or is he not feeling up to the task?

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WisePainter

Strike 1
Never micromanage your subs, I have a GC that is tries that cr@p everyday.




Strike 2
Sorry buddy, gigs up. You are trying to find ways to micromanage your painter.
I cannot help you any further.


Strike 3
Just because there technically has to be 3 strikes.

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Workaholic

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Basically, he wants to:

1. Prime/backroll everything.
2. Caulk
3. Spray trim (crown, base, door/window casings, etc)
4. Mask base
5. Cut in ceilings; roll
6. Cut in walls; roll two coats

The amount he would charge to mask and spray everything is probably a deal breaker. He is thinking he would have to.

1. Spray Prime everything
2. Spray trim
3. Mask Trim
4. Spray Walls while shielding Ceiling (3 coats)
5. Mask Walls
6. Spray ceiling (3 coats)

WisePainter

Darn you, only this once...

You have a smart painter listen to him, stand up to the HO and get the job done.

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Cache

Not trying to micromanage him. He is a family member and his work is really slow right now so he's helping me with trim work lately. Just wondering if I could do trim differently (ie a different process) that would eliminate some of the time consuming aspects of painting. The situation with the smooth walls is legit. Sorry to hijack your thread and upset you.

Workaholic

That is a very unusal relationship. You mean you actually help him do his job? I did not even know that GC's work.
If he is brushing trim in new work no doubt things could be speeded up.

This is some pretty pricey info do you have a PayPal account.

I do all my prep work first.

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WisePainter

No problem, it would have helped if you were more forthcoming with the info up front.

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Cache

One time I saw a remodeler who painted ceiling and walls first, kinda sloppy at the wall/ceiling juncture. Then rather than mark lines for crown moulding on the painted wall, he would run a strip of 2" blue tape along the wall and ceiling so that when the crown was intalled it overlapped the tape strips by 1/2" and there was still 1 1/2' of tape showing on the walls and ceiling. Then he would brush the trim without taking his time next to the walls and ceiling as there was already tape there. When finished, he would take his knife anad trim off the tape.

He claimed it saved him time on the cut in and solved the problem of bleed around the tape on textured walls. It was no problem for him because he was doing both the trim and the paint. Just wondering if there were similar things that could be done if a painter and trim carpenter are working side-by-side.

Cache

That's below the belt. Try to keep the gloves up. But to be honest, he helps me more often than I help him. Anyway, you want to know weird relationship. My drywaller shows up the other day and brings one of the other local homebuilders with him because the guy had no houses going and needed the extra cash. Not a half bad taper for a builder.

No, he usually sprays trim. But I've seen him brush certain trim like windows and doors.


Sorry, times being what they are and everything. You know how we stingy GCs are.

WisePainter

They should never be mixed.
I need the trim guy finished and out of my way when it comes time to sling paint.
Cutting tape means cutting into the wall, not a good solution.

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