Purdy Colossus Roller Covers

Wolfgang

The SW's in my area are currently having a sale on the Colossus covers: $5.98/3/4 nap, 5.48/1/2 nap. I stocked up on a few. Been using them for a few years now.

vandyandsons

wolfgang,

i know lots of painters like to have a couple of drinks before work...you know, to make the shaking stop...

but getting up at 3:00 AM to tie one on? time to get some help

Wolfgang

That's good! Dont drink...really. Put it down to old age. When the weather changes the bolts and screws holding my leg together act up, so no sleep. Always been an early riser anyway, 4:30 - 5:00.

vandyandsons

i figured it was a legit reason, just giving you a hard time. i don't drink either.

the guy who got me into the trade told me:

"kid, if ya show up sober and on time, ya got half the field beat already"

it's funny because its true.

Wolfgang

i will not post before 6am...i will not post before 6am...i will not post before 6am...

vandyandsons

Mr. Mike

Maybe its time to start drinking when you cant get to sleep.

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Workaholic

Well i finally got around to trying those covers yesterday on my eggshell walls. They are pretty good i used the 1/2" nap.

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Sean

Dorman Painting

They're the only covers I'll use anymore, nothing compares to their durability or performance. Here's a quick tip, if you've got a brand new collosus cover, soak it in warm water the night before you're to use it. It'll take the little fuzzies and frazzled threads out. I've had some for almost a year now, and they've been used heavily too.

WisePainter

In a "been working on this same job for 5 months and I want out NOW!!!!" kind of hurry, I left my 3/4" and 1" in buckets overnight with some paint and were left uncovered...




-$30.00

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Cache

Current home: smooth walls thoughout, HO doesn't like stipling. Wants everything sprayed with no backroll because doesn't like the "texture" left by roller covers. That's gonna run a premium for the amount of masking and certain colors will likely need 3 coats if no backrolling is allowed. I explained that even sprayed walls have some "texture" because the drywall isn't perfectly smooth. I'd really like to figure out a way around this kind of upcharge.

Sounds like I might be able to backroll and still get a non-stipled finish with the collosus?!? Satin walls and ceiling... what do you guys think. 1/2" collosus, no spraying at all?

How does the stiple compare on the 1/2", 1" and 3/4" collosus? How smooth can I get it?

Not gonna have to use a Purdy Parrot 1/4" am I?

WisePainter

Why?
Give them what they want. Sounds like you are gonna make that mortgage payment in full this month!

The stipple will be the same with all of the different covers depending on how you use them and the quality of the paint. The Colossus is designed to apply maximum paint with minimum dipping time.
Any rolled surface will have stipple unless you are using an alkyd based paint with a mohair cover, but even then...

Nope, it sounds like you have a customer that requires special handling. Which in turn requires special billing procedures.
And we all know what that means...


$!!!!


Unless they drive some turd car and have a job at WalMart, then just walk away. Be sure their wallet can cover their vivid imagination before starting.
Let us know how it turns out!!!

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Cache

Well, I'm not starved for work but not swamped right now. Not gonna turn down a 5,000s.f. custom home. Painter is already giving them a good deal. If he hits them with a large upcharge for no rolling, then they will probably start looking on craigslist if you know what I mean. Personally, I don't really make anything off the paint, but rather on the custom trim/woodwork. Painters are undercutting so bad here that I can't take any money from my painter and expect him to feed his family. The finish carpentry bill is already big enough for me to make some money.

He just buys new covers for each job and tosses them, but I was hoping that I could suggest the colossus and be able to satisfy the HO with no upcharge. Then everyone wins.

WisePainter

Ah, I see.
What does your painter think about the process for achieving a perfectly smooth finish?
In this instance I am at a loss for a solid answer because the spec' for the finish is an unusual one, and almost impossible.
Without the proper funding that is.

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Workaholic

Touch up on these walls is going to be fun.

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Sean

WisePainter

I didn't think of that...

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Cache

Haven't talked to him about the prospect of using the cover you're suggesting. Just happened across your post while looking at the purdy covers.

He's not sure about the HO request. He doesn't like the idea of spraying primer without backrolling and still getting good adhesion. Also, he is a roller guy. Prefers rolling to spraying as it cuts down on the masking, and drywallers with power sanders are tearing up the surface these days. Rolling takes care of the rough paper.

Looked into spraying with Tuff-Hide instead of primer to solve the issues with adhesion and paper fibers. That's a pretty big upcharge too though. Maybe we can get a colossus and finish and scrap of drywall and see what the HO says.

Cache

Because of the choice in finish or just because the HO is a PITA?

I was in a home the other day with smooth walls and smooth ceilings. Satin paint on some walls, flat on others, flat ceilings. The dark flat walls were the bigger nightmare. Easy for the painter I'm sure, but they scuff like crazy and the HO can't clean them very well. Many times no choice but to simply pull out the paint and touch up where a satin paint would just wipe clean.

Workaholic

Because of the finish application. When a wall is damaged by the electricians or the plumbers then the HO will have to accept some roller work when the wall is repainted.

I spray the garage and closet walls when spraying new work i back roll everything though. Other than that it is all brush and roll (except for the trim that is)

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Sean

WisePainter

I would recommend the Colossus because the nap is more like yarn, so it is possible to tip off the wall on the finish back roll which in turn does not leave a stipple. The average roller cover piles up on itself and becomes matted, almost like rolling a wet terrier all over the walls.
That may be what your HO is afraid of having had a painter in the past neglect to back roll.
Ask them why they desire a smoother than smooth finish and listen carefully to his words.

Touch ups on a satin wall are already a nightmare, add on the fact that you will need to repaint the whole wall...without stipple.

What is a "PITA"?

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