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Old 11-27-2006, 11:06 AM   #1
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Protection for Kitchen Cabinets

I was wondering about Kitchen Cabinets how do you guys go about painting it to make sure that paint doesn't scrub off.

Semi-gloss, gloss?

A brand you favor for kitchen cabinets?

Do you do anything extra like put a polyurethane over them?

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Old 11-27-2006, 06:45 PM   #2
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I use good paint

I am actually going to sand, prime with bin, paint, paint with satin impervo--some cabinets soon. I'll post some before/afters later this month.

good paint needs no magic trick to work well
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Old 11-27-2006, 07:19 PM   #3
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Properly prepped and quality painted cabs will last a long, long, time
An oil-based enamel is pretty darn tough
Waterborne enamel, almost as good
I prefer the Ben Moore Impervo products, but I'm sure the SWP comparable product is also good
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Old 12-02-2006, 09:12 AM   #4
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I have done three kitchens over the last few months which have been cream in color with a brown glaze wiped on.After degreasing and sanding I use BIN primer, then I paint two coats of 'pro classic' latex enamel from SW. Then I do the glazing effect, then finish off with a coat of clear protector from the faux finish section at lowes. I did the same with my own kitchen last christmas and it still looks good a year down the line..........Paul.
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I have done three kitchens over the last few months which have been cream in color with a brown glaze wiped on.After degreasing and sanding I use BIN primer, then I paint two coats of 'pro classic' latex enamel from SW. Then I do the glazing effect, then finish off with a coat of clear protector from the faux finish section at lowes. I did the same with my own kitchen last christmas and it still looks good a year down the line..........Paul.
sounds like a good process right there

Pro classic latex is awesome. I think it looks better than the pro classic oil. Pro classic and satin impervo are equal in my eyes--I use both almost exclusively for trim.
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Yup....trim for me is Pro Classic waterborne. It gives me a look very much like oil with water clean up. Love it.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:09 PM   #7
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I have always loved the pro-classic waterborne or muralo ultra, always deliver an outstandung finished product. I am now doing a job where I am using insul-x cabinet coat. Wow, looks great, dries hard, levels at least as good if not better than pro-classic. BUT...man, what a learning curve with this...very thin and runs like an anxious horse on opening day at Saratoga. It can sag and curtain when nothing else would have. This will quickly become my fave if I can adjust to it quick enough. Anyone else use this before?
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:26 PM   #8
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cabinet coat

I have been using the cabinet coat for almost all my brush work lately, do not dare to try spraying airless it yet though. I second the learning curve on that stuff though, definetely not for rookies to use. I am still working to get perfect results with no runs or sags to sand out, especially if there is any extra detailed moulding areas.

I have sprayed it will HVLP and when it was left in the pressure pot, it formed a yellow precipitate that would leave grit in the finish and was too small to filer out with the cone or net type filters. I thought it was a reaction with the metal tube in the pot, but the last gallon I had did the same thing with the portion that was sitting in the gallon and I am not sure what the deal is with that.
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i clean all the grease/oil/dirt off the cabinets...use oil based paint....use the foam rollers....then added the paint to polyurethane to make the glaze for the faux ...it faux and protect in one coat finish...my bm dealer suggested it.
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i clean all the grease/oil/dirt off the cabinets...use oil based paint....use the foam rollers....then added the paint to polyurethane to make the glaze for the faux ...it faux and protect in one coat finish...my bm dealer suggested it.
Since when did your paint dealer become your advisor on what to do for a job? If that's your only clue, your in big trouble, learn the trade, don't let it learn you...
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Old 12-04-2006, 09:55 AM   #11
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So harsh. Maybe his BM dealer is an ex-painter, or has a lot of experience. Nothing wrong with learning something new no matter who its from, espeically if it works.
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paint and poly mix

With glazes you typically brush it on then wipe it off which allows the color to be darker in recessed areas and lighter in other areas. If you are just brushing on the tinted poly, then you would not be able to achieve this effect. If you are looking for a more even effect, then it might work fine.
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So harsh. Maybe his BM dealer is an ex-painter, or has a lot of experience. Nothing wrong with learning something new no matter who its from, espeically if it works.
I was gonna say something, but I've cooled off in here--

I've actually learned a whole lot from my manager bud at Sherwin. Anytime I call and have some weird scenario or problem, he gives me his opinion (by the book, of course) and even if I dont use his advice, I usually learn something. When you get to the point where you're picking and choosing who to take advice from, you're headed in the wrong direction. Advice is free, mistakes aren't
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:45 PM   #14
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I know what he means though. Not all people behind the counter know what's going on at the site. Book knowledge compared to practical knowledge.

Plus, they sometimes give advice that steers you to buy, buy, buy. It's better to learn the trade so you know when the advice is good or not, i guess.
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Hey, there is a lot of bad advice out there, but if you take it with a bit of salt and use your head, at this stage you should be able to separate the good and the bad.
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Hey, there is a lot of bad advice out there, but if you take it with a bit of salt and use your head, at this stage you should be able to separate the good and the bad.
I got ya, take what you need, leave the rest.
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