Primer Issue

cynthiann

hmmmm. Are we sure it's not the excess dust that causes the problems, or the lack of primer? I spend an entire day de-dusting a house before I start.

ProWallGuy

It could be one, or the other, or both.

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CarlW

I didn't mean that I've been doing ONLY new construction for 20 years, LOL!

I have got to make some money too ya know, and the money ain't in new construction and we all know that. What I do really is paint for a few builders and then I do go back into a lot of those homes years later to do custom painting. I also do repaints in a lot of tract type homes painted originally by complete hackers. Believe me, I see clearly that those paintjobs are terrible....the walls are rougher than a piece of 60 grit, sags all over the place, nothing is backrolled, etc., but they don't peel and the paint hasn't failed. That's why I asked the question. I've never seen it...maybe I've just been lucky.

slickshift

Ah, I see

slickshift

That's a problem too
Those tend to peel like a banana right to the drywall, even if they are primed
You can see the primer on the "white" back of the colored "peel"

PlainPainter

I hate it when painters don't prime! Sure it looks great, but several paint jobs later - and then you arrive, get a signed estimate - start painting, then suddenly the paint bubbles from the wall - it finally let go under the tension of the newly applied paint. And now the homeowner thinks you are the hack and doesn't understand about the adhesion failure because the original painter didn't prime. This happens much more often on exteriors, and I have all these crazy clients who think it's my responsibility to fix these repairs for free! And usually, if it wasn't me, it was another ethical contractor that bid the prior paint job on these homes and lost from a low-baller who skips steps. So why should an ethical painter have to correct the mistakes for free on a home that he lost the bid on previously, or at least an ethical comrade that lost.

-plainpainter

rservices

new question
I acidently used indoor primer KILZ on my garage.
what should I expect??

Im glad I only did 2 sides before I noticed, I start the house next week

AAPaint

You shouldn't have to correct those things. You should have a clause in your contract covering you from such failures. Show the customer how your coating has adhered properly to the previous coatings, but that they have failed, which would then make the problem fall under another contract provision "unforseen circumstances" and would then be charged at the proper rate.

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Jacksonville, FL.

AAPaint

If the walls were clean, you shouldn't have any major trouble from the Kilz. It's just not a preffered product tor the most part. It's a decent primer, but it doesn't kill stains or adhere AS good as some of the other stuff that's available.

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AA Quality Painting & Pressure Washing LLC
Jacksonville Painters
Jacksonville, FL.

firemike

I had the same thing happen last week. Repainted a wall in a restaurant and it developed two large (5" x 8") bubbles in it. Didn't remember seeing them when I started so I let them dry. Showed the owner, peeled them off, and on the piece I removed, you could see the coat I just put on, and it looks like one thick coat or two thin coats of an off white.

The wall under the bubble appeared to be drywall mud, so i wet my finger and rubbed in on the wall, and sure enough, it pasted up easily. Bare drywall mud, it was a taped seam. The owner advise that they had had the wall built a year or so ago. I poked around alittle more and there is no evidence of any primer on the wall above the drop ceiling either.

Personly I always prime/seal when the situation calls for it. I guess I have never been one of the "good enough" types