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Old 05-04-2009, 11:35 AM   #1
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Prime Or Not To Prime Before Glazing?


Does all glazing and windows require this priming before glazing?

I am not 100% sure we have to prime first, I will count on one of you to do the research

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Uuuh, trust me, I've done
better than "research".
Prime it!
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Uuuh, trust me, I've done
better than "research".
Prime it!

Better listen to neolitic, he saw a painter on television do it once...




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Better listen to neolitic, he saw a painter on television do it once...




Of course I "saw" "someone else"
get burned that way......
once.......
long, long ago.....
in a galaxy far, far away......
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Better listen to neolitic, he saw a painter on television do it once...
Nah. He's so old, he's had a chance to try both methods on the same windows multiple times.
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This painting is just not as easy as it looks huh?
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Nah. He's so old, he's had a chance to try both methods on the same windows multiple times.
Unfortunately, that is
only too true.
And the second time on
the first set was waaaaaay
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And the second time on
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BTDT!
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My research is in:

The rep told me that not priming the surface is O'k. It will be harder to install the glazing and the wood will dry out the glazing quicker than if we prime it first, however not priming the wood first will not hurt the sticking power of the glazing.

I use glazall or what ever the name is from SW.
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what is the dry time of the glazing before you can coat it:
Primed vs not primed?
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Affect sticking power? Maybe not, but will it seal moisture out? Or will it let moisture seep under the glazing and into the unsealed wood?

I' ve never given it that much thought, just always primed and glazed the few I have done.

Not sure how priming makes it harder to glaze either if the primer is dry.
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The glazing has oils in it so either way its going to take time to dry...

Prime the seal... it protects the wood when the glaze fails later on down the road.
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The rep told me that not priming the surface is O'k.

Was he from SW??
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For best results, read the directions on the side of the can (unless you think you know more than they do)
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prime it. or pay later.
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shouldnt all raw wood be primed?just seems like good practice
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What about the market. If no one else around is priming first can you afford to put it in your bid? If you tell them they need to do it and the other 4 contractors tell them whomever told them that "they are just trying to squeeze every dollar they can out of you" then what do you do. Is priming before glazing so important that you wont not do it? I personally feel that priming bare drywall is more important but I see people use 2 coats of the cheapest flat they can find all the time. And Im with Mike, if it was so important then why wasnt it done the first time. I have never seen glazing fall out or cut out that was primed prior.
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What about the market. If no one else around is priming first can you afford to put it in your bid? If you tell them they need to do it and the other 4 contractors tell them whomever told them that "they are just trying to squeeze every dollar they can out of you" then what do you do. Is priming before glazing so important that you wont not do it? I personally feel that priming bare drywall is more important but I see people use 2 coats of the cheapest flat they can find all the time. And Im with Mike, if it was so important then why wasnt it done the first time. I have never seen glazing fall out or cut out that was primed prior.
good question.

this may be an instance where you'd give them 2 bids.

one for the way most guys do it.

another for the right way that you would do it.

who knows ?

i have rarely seen a guy walk away from a job because he couldn't do it his ideal way.

we give them what they pay for. especially when the pickens are slim.
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Re: Prime Or Not To Prime Before Glazing?


The can does say for best results prime first, so I called the SW rep he called the tech support at the glazol place and caled me right back.


Primed or not before glazing there will be no way for moisture to seep under the glazing.
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The rep told me that not priming the surface is O'k.

Was he from SW??
Does SW have a bad rep. among you pro's. I'm a drywall guy, just wondering.
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