Price For Sqft, And What Region You Live In

Workaholic

Thats interesting, is the remodel prices?
I have never had to bill like that. I have had to bid just on cost per door.

boman47k

Supply the mat's? 1 coat primer, 2 coats paint on the walls? Then all the doors and trim?

How long does it take the two you to do a project like that?

Workaholic

Yes we supply all material & with normal flat paint we normally give two coats on the walls, of course we are all about the job and do what ever it takes.

We can do 2 houses like that in 8 days, thats a 2 man crew.
1st day putty and caulk both houses, that makes for a long day
2nd day spray ceilings and spray prime doors and jambs, brush prime windows, in both houses
3rd day sand all wood work, spray finish coat on doors and jambs, in both houses
4th day hang all doors in both houses. both ppl cut in a house then when done roll out the house with first coat paint.
5th day, sand walls then go through house with 300 watt bulb fixing all dings, scratches, and dents in sheetrock. spot prime where ever mudded. Then cut in house again roll out after cut in.
6th day do 4th day all over again, for the second house, minus hanging of doors.
7th day do 5th day again,for the second house
8th day run base boards (which go fast because they have been spray primed & been sprayed with finish, Just put a third coat on them to straighten out cut in lines and any splatters) do the treys in the master and great room.
straighten up house wait for final, so we can run the shoe mold and fix what ever has happened since we left.
There used to be 3 of us and it made for shorter days.
Well those are my trade secrets " all rights reserved"

If anyone has a way to shave some time, i would love to hear the suggestions.

Brushslingers

So basically you and your partner are making 1000.00 a week and putting 200.00 per week back into the company, while paying for paint, caulk out of pocket which makes your bring home about 600.00 per week. About right?

Can't help ya speed up but my crew of three can do the same in 5 days with a short Friday. Possibly look into two guns for your sprayer. Also, you actually signed up to repair sheetrock imperfections? Wow... at a buck fity you better get your own fatboy back in around here. However, that is exactly how we do it, same size house with a crew of 2 still shouldn't take 4 days though......

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Workaholic

well the money is a little better than you figured. We use to do it in 6 days with a few less than half days when it was three of us. We also do not spray our walls i do not know if you do or not. As far as the sheetrock repair it is just easier that way. no waiting for anyone to show up, no lost days because we are waiting for someone else to do it. There are some short cuts i know we could do, such as spraying the walls for the first coat.

Hey how do i add a quote under my stuff?

Brushslingers

Naaa, we cut and roll all walls unless it's a blow and go. But what I was getting as is your insurance, cellphones, gas, paint, sundries, taxes, biz phone, advertising.... after all that by my calcs your only getting about 600 a week before your own income taxes. May be cool for you, if it is great! But for me, I can make that anywhere for flat 40 a week and no stress. I understand the "skim your own" thing too, but it sorta opens you up for liabilities too.... now the walls are yours not the rockers. Just trying to help a bruther out here, please don't take offense.

Cut and paste.

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Workaholic

Naa no offense taken. That is just on the cracker jack houses it comes out like that, if we couldnt do 2 a week (or there about) then there would'nt be any money in those little houses. We get into alot bigger houses which change the pay scale. If i was only earning 600 a week i would have to be someones employee as well, less headaches no overhead ect. ect.

Brushslingers

Cool, then the only thing I could suggest is a dual gun setup on your sprayer and maybe talk to your super about spraying the trim before the trim guys install... makes things a little faster.

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boman47k

1600 ft heated space + 400 ft garage x1.50 = 3000. 2 of these in 8 days. 6000 in 8 days for two man operation. Sounds interesting to me not knowing his operating expenses. Now just figuring one room, it would be low. but whole houses? Steady work? Hey if it works. Never figured one on floor square footage.

Brushslingers

Depends on the contractor, some only pay for heated space, some pay for lentils, etc.... only thing about per footage is you have to MOVE.... or you will lose your shirt. You also have to leave enough draw in the job for final, so even if it is 3k if you pull out 2900 in draws and get stuck with one dude running touchups for 8 hours... your screwed.

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boman47k

That did cross my mind. I do not understand it. whether I could work that way would be dependent on how I priced it, maybe. Right now I feel if I paint it, I want paid.

Jonesey

Well, this thread helped me understand how expensive I am.

I'm at $4.0 a sq and up for around 2500 sq plus extras, but kitchen stains and lacquers and trim and doors usually go oil.

Remodel is a whole different story.

120 per door and casing
1.80 sq for walls and ceiling
1.40 to 3.00 lf trim depending on the color of the stain
1.50 lf for oil

Cabinets are extra
Special finishes are a LOT extra
Distressed finishes are a WHOLE LOT extra

In OK.

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Workaholic

We get paid for the full sqft no out side except 3 metal doors, little house we draw it all, we have a good reputation of always showing up. so we come back for no money. Touch up in small house a breeze less picky. As i said before those little houses are the low end of what we do. And they 99% of time come in pairs.

boman47k

Wall and ceiling square footage?

Brushslingers

Indeed, repaints are a different story... here's mine -

Ceilings .78 square foot
Walls .68 square foot one coat, each additional is half that.
Doors 50.00 painted, 100.00 unpainted.
Trim 1.20 linear.
Crown 2.25 linear.
Oil +.35.
Stain +.50.

Cabinets are extra
Special finishes are a LOT extra
Distressed finishes are a WHOLE LOT extra



Edit - Each additional means two coats is 1.02, three is 1.36....

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boman47k

I'm assuming that is with no primer?

Brushslingers

Each coat adds, including primer coat.

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sttryffe

Hey Brushslingers!

So for new construction....you measure by floor sq. footage......not wall right? And in terms of repaints....you measure by wall sq. footage? Could you elaborate please! I've just started on my own...and I'm trying to get a feel of pricing! Thanks!

THINKPAINTING

I am new here, but what did you guys make last year? What did ya make in salary, or profit.

Do ya own your own home, health insurance, nice truck, etc....

$600 a week for all that work, what about health insurance for you and your partner?

A good mechanic painter makes 18-25 an hr working 40 a week.

Workaholic

I think that that 600 a week thing was meant to be towards me.
LOL i do a bit better than 6 bills a week.. hell i made more than that when i worked for someone else. As far as all that other info.. bit to personal for a forum
I have already been kicking myself for breaking down my time on those cracker jack houses.
Get some HO thinking that sounds easy. Of course when a HO tries it, High dollar to fix!

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