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02-14-2008, 12:14 PM
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powder stain??
Anyone ever heard of J.E. Moser's Aniline dye stain?? (Powder)
Heres the deal im on a comercial job the super.. gave it to me for samples it says desolve in hot water almost boiling I dont have hot water here at the shop any idea if it works the same in cold?? LOL
It seems to be desolveing
Any input??
Kenny
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02-14-2008, 06:03 PM
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Powder stain?? LOL
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Thats where im at with it too, Has anyone ever heard of it?
Kenny
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02-14-2008, 07:22 PM
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Yes I have
But, it was only by a know-it-all homeowner who felt I couldn't possibly be a professional as I had no idea what he was talking about
He said you mix it with water
I'm sure I was giving him the 'you know you've got an extra head growing out of your neck there pal' look as he was telling me about it
IIRC, he was a californian who started a rant about how us easties were so far behind the times we were backwards
But...that's it
He wasn't impressed by my apparently stone-age painting knowledge
I wasn't impressed by his arrogance
I never followed up
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I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr
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02-14-2008, 09:25 PM
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Thats where im at with it too, Has anyone ever heard of it?
Kenny
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The guy's not ranting about it on the other thread. Why start another thread about it?
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Originally Posted by profinish
Anyone ever heard of J.E. Moser's Aniline dye stain?? (Powder)
Heres the deal im on a comercial job the super.. gave it to me for samples it says desolve in hot water almost boiling I dont have hot water here at the shop any idea if it works the same in cold?? LOL
It seems to be desolveing
Any input??
Kenny
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02-14-2008, 09:39 PM
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...jammin
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The guy's not ranting about it on the other thread. Why start another thread about it?
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Ah... thanks... threads merged
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02-14-2008, 09:59 PM
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Ah... thanks... threads merged
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LOL. I didn't realize ProFinish had started both threads.
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02-15-2008, 02:37 AM
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It will not fully dissolve in cold water. Transtint dyes are already in a solution and I have found these easier to achieve the desired result. I do not believe water-soluble dyes are the right choice for large scale on site finishing. Be prepared for grain raising, blotching, streaking, etc.
Last edited by Cletus; 02-15-2008 at 02:48 AM.
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02-16-2008, 01:27 PM
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I used to do antique furniture repair, restoration and refinishing and often used water-soluble aniline dye (there is also an alcohol-soluble version). It handles a little differently than a conventional pigmented wiping stain or gel stain. It is fantastic for color matching (which is mainly what I used it for in antique work) because you can dilute it with water to lighten it, or blend it with other colors to make virtually any shade. When trying to match an existing color, it is nice in that you apply a little and hit it with a heat gun and you have the final color in 20-30 seconds. You definitely would want to do some experimenting with it prior to using it on a job, just to get a feel for application techniques. I have applied it successfully with a brush, rag or sprayer; it actually is pretty easy to work with. It gives a very clear color, i.e. doesn't obscure the grain. The water soluble kind will raise the grain. To deal with this, you can wet the workpiece with water, let dry, sand and proceed.
It should be dissolved in hot water as the manufacturer says.
Just out of curiosity, what would be the application on this commercial job? It is very rare to see it anywhere but in a furniture finishing application.
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02-16-2008, 07:08 PM
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...jammin
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Just out of curiosity, what would be the application on this commercial job? It is very rare to see it anywhere but in a furniture finishing application.
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This "potential client" I mentioned was telling me it was a deck stain
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