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02-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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popcorn
anyone have problems with the popcorn coming of and cloging up the roller? 
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02-21-2007, 03:11 PM
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spray if possible. I cringe when i have to paint an unpainted popcorn ceiling. AAARRRRGGHHHH!
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02-21-2007, 04:03 PM
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If it is unpainted, and you are painting it for the first time.You can not back roll to much if you back roll over an area to much it will pull the popcorn off.  If it has been painted before, no popcorn should come off.
I agree with Tradition, Spray when ever possible. 
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02-21-2007, 04:39 PM
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New Guy
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Roger that-we spray them. I'm getting a lot of requests by customers to remove popcorn now. Anyone have an idea how to get it off after it's been painted and have a "paint ready" surface without hours of sanding?
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02-21-2007, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T bone
Roger that-we spray them. I'm getting a lot of requests by customers to remove popcorn now. Anyone have an idea how to get it off after it's been painted and have a "paint ready" surface without hours of sanding?
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I have been able to scrape them off and skim coat them. its a hassle but sure beats painting them. Most people are taking them also around here, they are ugly in my opinion anyway
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02-21-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MakDeco
I have been able to scrape them off and skim coat them. its a hassle but sure beats painting them. Most people are taking them also around here, they are ugly in my opinion anyway
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they are ugly period
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02-21-2007, 06:14 PM
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Scrape & knockdown gives the room a whole new look for minimal effort.
If you HAVE to paint, spray is the only way to go.
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02-21-2007, 10:27 PM
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Or just cover it with a new layer of 1/2" rock if there's no crown... glue and screw, then tape and float.
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02-21-2007, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyV-NHSNOLA
Or just cover it with a new layer of 1/2" rock if there's no crown... glue and screw, then tape and float.
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I have seen some alreadt painted that would have been much easier just to recover, not to mention possibly dealing with asbestos.
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02-22-2007, 06:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T bone
Roger that-we spray them. I'm getting a lot of requests by customers to remove popcorn now. Anyone have an idea how to get it off after it's been painted and have a "paint ready" surface without hours of sanding?
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I plastic everything off and water them down with a hudson sprayer, then scrape it off and heavy texture with a crow's foot, or splatter. Looks good and it's quick.
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02-22-2007, 05:32 PM
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Tejano
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never had to deal with that but i have questiuon about that.
i imagine the popcorn comes out because of using a water base product and water saturates to soften the popcorn to the substrate. What if you use an oil base product. would that result with the popcorn falling out, also.
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02-23-2007, 12:39 AM
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It still falls when you use oil. The popcorn is just acoustical pebbles in a joint compound binder. It gets any moisture at all and there's a chance it will fall off in sheets. Speaking of which that actually happened to me once. Spraying a garage and got about half of it done before it starting falling in about 3x3 foot sheets onto the garage floor. I was on the phone to the drywall guy so fast you couldn't even hear the beep beep beep. lol
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02-23-2007, 12:57 AM
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Mike Danahy
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I use oil, Cut with a whiz, roll with a 15 mil. It's not pretty. Face gets covered, shoulders get a workout, popcorn fly's all over the place, I cross hatch 3 to 5 foot abstract little sections, takes a while, but always looks like a million bucks when complete.
Sure would love to own a sprayer though...
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02-23-2007, 09:30 PM
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New Guy
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Feelin kinda dumb here. This is a helluva job to get the painted popcorn roughness pattern off the ceiling no matter what I've tried--BUT i have not tried wetting it as I think you're saying Jonesy. What is a hudson sprayer? I would do about anything to get it to come off without removing the papercoat on the sheetrock and leave a paintable surface that we could texture or paint.
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02-23-2007, 09:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert S
anyone have problems with the popcorn coming of and cloging up the roller?
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Almost never
Popcorn doesn't bother me
I'll roll it all day
If there's an adhesion problem, it gets oil-primer
And I've got a popcorn waiver in case it falls after I start
I can't remember the last popcorn I HAD to remove that wasn't seriously damaged anyway
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I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr
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02-23-2007, 10:25 PM
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If there's an adhesion problem, it gets oil-primer
And I've got a popcorn waiver in case it falls after I start
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Ditto. I won't touch never before painted popcorn without oil priming first and rolled in one direction for me.
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