Patching Popcorn ceiling - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

davidanbess · 04-20-2009, 08:08 PM

Hi, I have only about a 8inch x 3inch area to patch due to water damage at the internal corner of ceiling and wall,question is what spray is the best, I was in home depot today and they had about 4 dif brands is there any one better than the other,or is there something else I can use.
Regards David

ModernStyle · 04-20-2009, 09:05 PM

dont buy the cheapest, i did 2 weeks ago and it sucked. I ended up fabricating my own texture out of caulk, it matched good enough for the small area I repaired.
My uncle swears he used to mix drywall mud and kitty litter and make his own, but he drinks a lot and smokes a lot of ditch weed so he could be mistaken.

nEighter · 04-20-2009, 09:19 PM

watch out because there are diff types of texture. An aggregate based, and a styrofoam based.. and they don't look alike. The aggregate neeeds to be stirred REALLY well, left alone and stirred again, otherwise you will have raw aggregate showing once dried.. and it will look like booty.

WisePainter · 04-20-2009, 09:48 PM

I shoot one of those terrible texture repair cans into an almost upside down 5'er and then use a 6" knife to apply it.
Those cans are under tremendous pressure, trigger it slowly into the bucket!!

Frankawitz · 04-21-2009, 05:53 AM

Well in 29 years of doing repair work I have yet to see a popcorn patch job blend in, it will look like a patch after it's painted, also what about the water damage your not going to replace the board and what about mold on the back side of the ceiling.

www.frankawitz.net

WisePainter · 04-21-2009, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankawitz

Well in 29 years of doing repair work I have yet to see a popcorn patch job blend in, it will look like a patch after it's painted

Good, it isn't just me then. Never seen a patch I liked.

A W Smith · 04-21-2009, 01:37 PM

I had terrific results with this stuff

http://www.homaxproducts.com/product.../05/index.html

its a bit over 7 bucks a can which covers about 2 1/2 square feet. Be sure to shake the hell out of the can.

And yes I was able to blend it in.

WisePainter · 04-21-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by A W Smith

I had terrific results with this stuff

http://www.homaxproducts.com/product.../05/index.html

its a bit over 7 bucks a can which covers about 2 1/2 square feet. Be sure to shake the hell out of the can.

And yes I was able to blend it in.

You mean this stuff?

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

I shoot one of those terrible texture repair cans into an almost upside down 5'er and then use a 6" knife to apply it.
Those cans are under tremendous pressure, trigger it slowly into the bucket!!

Stuff is deadly inside of a client's house, it goes off like a bomb in every direction after it splatters the ceiling.

davidanbess · 04-21-2009, 07:19 PM

Thanks for the replies I will probably take a can of each the popcorn tex and the orange peel tex and do a test patch on a piece of wood or something using all suggested methods till I'm happy with one.
Frankawitz, it's not my call on the mold although I see where your coming from.

Regards David

Sir Mixalot · 04-21-2009, 09:01 PM

All I use is Sheetrock brand popcorn (depending on the size of the popcorn) it comes in "course", "medium" or "fine" $9.00 a bag. Go to your local drywall supply store.

A W Smith · 04-21-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

You mean this stuff?

Stuff is deadly inside of a client's house, it goes off like a bomb in every direction after it splatters the ceiling.

I had no problem with it. Of course i blue taped a poly curtain to the ceiling around the small area I repaired. Just in case. I did repairs in four apartments of the same building after sprinkler piping repairs. You sure you were using it right? I experimented on a scrap of drywall before I even tried a can in an apartment. Did you read the directions? I held it 1 to 2 feet off off the ceiling. Closer for denser popcorn further away for light pattern to blend in. Results were much better than I expected.

Sir Mixalot · 04-21-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankawitz

Well in 29 years of doing repair work I have yet to see a popcorn patch job blend in, it will look like a patch after it's painted.

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Originally Posted by WisePainter

Good, it isn't just me then. Never seen a patch I liked.

Never say never.

Jesse Kirchhoff · 04-21-2009, 09:43 PM

We have excelent results from the texture products from ACE Hardware. Take several mixes with you with different sizes and shaped chips and use the one that matches best. Our method requires a texture patch gun (Homax makes a cheap one that is adequate if you don't want to buy a good one). We never scrape straight lines of course and use a jagged "starburst" shape. Our texture matching has become an art form and one of our best money makers.

WisePainter · 04-21-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by A W Smith

I had no problem with it. Of course i blue taped a poly curtain to the ceiling around the small area I repaired.

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Originally Posted by Sir Mixalot

Never say never.

That is the only way to go, but I have seen a few cases where the HO didn't understand how important masking the surrounding areas was.
Everything has to be sealed.

Jesse Kirchhoff · 04-21-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankawitz

also what about the water damage your not going to replace the board and what about mold on the back side of the ceiling.

www.frankawitz.net

I see you talk about replacing the drywall alot because of the mold. What kind of mold are you guys growing in your ceilings and just how wet are they to let the mold get that bad?

We have simple brown mildew stains on ceilings from flashing leaks and what not, but never any of that black, "furry", behind the leaking shower type mold that I would consider ripping out drywall for.

Just curious - thanks

Jesse Kirchhoff · 04-21-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wisepainter

that is the only way to go, but i have seen a few cases where the ho didn't understand how important masking the surrounding areas was.
Everything has to be sealed.

That's why I LOVE my Zip Wall

EDIT - I now see that you where reffering to the garage door tracks and opener as well as the walls and surrounding room.

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WisePainter · 04-21-2009, 10:57 PM

Can't beat the ZipWall, imagine the million$ the inventor made...they are a bit pricey but well worth it.

Frankawitz · 04-22-2009, 07:20 AM

I see you sprayed the whole ceiling not just the patched areas, also I noticed you took the finished picture from a different spot then the before picture.

as for mold it only takes 24 to 48 hours for mold to start growing in damp or wet areas in a ceiling or wall, and if it reaches the gypsum well then it's a good idea to remove it. I have seen the scrape and prime jobs and then in six months stains show up

. I get paid for removing water damaged plaster and drywall not for scraping and prime and paint. if you can't see what is happening on the backside of a ceiling or wall how do you know there isn't mold growing. But hey you do your repairs the way you feel comfortable about doing. I prefer to cut out any water damage. Good luck

www.frankawitz.net

Chris G · 04-22-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by A W Smith

I had terrific results with this stuff

http://www.homaxproducts.com/product.../05/index.html

its a bit over 7 bucks a can which covers about 2 1/2 square feet. Be sure to shake the hell out of the can.

And yes I was able to blend it in.

Used thta the other day. Worked well. Wish I would have read the coverage though, lol..

Sir Mixalot · 04-22-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankawitz

I see you sprayed the whole ceiling not just the patched areas, also I noticed you took the finished picture from a different spot then the before picture.

NO. I did not spray the whole ceiling. Just the patch. all of the pictures are only one corner of a two car garage. And I don't do trick photography either.

I'll just take that as a compliment.

Here's all the pictures I took.