Partnering Up For A Bid

Miniroller

Hi. I was recently offered a sizable res. exterior. The mother of a good customer wants her house prepared and stained 2 coats acrylic. Painting weather is getting tight and I only have one helper so I was thinking about splitting job with another painter. Bad idea? I am insured in full and he has none. I am also faster and more experienced but he is a strong worker and good on ladders. 65/35 split (minus insurance, one worker, materials) seem fair? Or am I screwing myself?

George Z

I think it's safer to sub a defined portion of the job to him

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mdshunk

I continue to believe that strategic alliances are a good idea. I have not been able to overcome how such an alliance would be structured. For now, George's suggestion of subbing out a defined portion for a defined amount is the safest bet.

slickshift

I also agree with the "Z"

This might not be a good project for a test of how well a partnership with this person works

It's definitely safer to sub a defined portion of the job to him

It's getting kinda late
If you need an extra hand to button that puppy up, let me know

KellyPainting

have Slick help ya..... then come back and tell us all about him...ha ha

Honestly.... not a bad idea with a small job, but being the time of the year.....you don't have any elbow room for mishaps....so
I would rather see you get help from Slick..honestly.

Miniroller

Thanks. I'll let you know Slickshift. Wouldn't be until late next week if the start-up evens happens at all this year.

boman47k

Now I am confused. Have read many many posts in these forums about subs, ins, etc. So you guys would sub part of this out to someone with no ins.?

Terrence

ooh good question, but I don't know the answer.
Seems like the insurance would only cover that sitch
if the guy was an employee, right?

EDIT:
I just added nothing to the conversation. Sorry.

Frankawitz

My Brother and I work together and I pay him 30% all he has to do is show up. But to pay someone 35% and then charge for Workers comp. liabilty ins. Why not just hire him as a worker and pay him $12.50 an hour. and no benefits.

Miniroller

$12.50 an hour. I don't know any experienced painters who would work for $12.50 an hour here. Heck, you can go down to the beach and dig clams and make more than that here. I
I've known this painter for 10 some years (I can trust him). Trust is very important to me because I'm in these huge houses with lots of valuables close by. So important that to date I've hired no-one I didn't grow up with or is close to my family. I've begged him to get insurance so I could do these deals with him more often. Don't know why he won't get insurance and raise his labor up to compensate.

Downeast

Ya ,slick and I will just do the job for ya and if she pays us the full amount, we will flip ya a finders fee.....

Miniroller

Thanks Downeast but I think I am probably gonna push this one off until spring unless she lets me do it piecemeal.

btw- what is finder's fee % anyhows?

Downeast

Thats when you flip someone some cash for hooking you up with a job/contract. But there is always an excuse in the end as to why they cant pay.

Customer held back, didn't pay in full. So that come out of the finders fee.....

Miniroller

So... a finder's fee same as a "kickback?"