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05-15-2005, 10:26 AM
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Painting Vinyl Siding
Painting Vinyl Siding for $200 Alex.
The answer is:
The term used to describe the warping of vinyl siding that may occur when applying a darker color of paint than the original color of the siding.
What is __________.
Anyone care to answer this one.
I was aware of the problem that may occur but actually just learned the term used to describe it.
Tom Rohland, Jr.
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05-15-2005, 11:20 AM
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Umm, - - Alexpansion?
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05-15-2005, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom R
Umm, - - Alexpansion?
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Great guess!
However,
"NEGATIVE MY YOUNG WARRIOR"
"OFF WITH YOU HEAD!"
LOL
Tom Rohland, Jr.
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05-18-2005, 03:14 AM
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OK, OK
No more heads removed for incorrect answers!
Go ahead, give it a shot.
Tom Rohland, Jr.
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05-18-2005, 05:57 AM
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Um...what is bi-radial copolymer elastomeric thermo-ply extrusionatory cross-dimensional degradation?
Catastrophic hypothermal expansion?
Super-elevated expansion/contraction coefficient? 
Last edited by PipeGuy; 05-18-2005 at 06:07 AM.
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05-18-2005, 07:27 AM
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Damn, pipeguy beat me to it, that was MY answer.
 
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05-18-2005, 12:25 PM
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stop botherin' me!
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How about a dumb ass who should have never painted vinyl siding int he first place. What a sin that is.
BTW I want to say OIL CANNING. That's what happens to vinyl siding when it is nailed too tight and the effects of thermal radiation (heat) causes the siding to warp. That's just a guess though since I am really not sure what this phenomina you described is called.
Last edited by Grumpy; 05-18-2005 at 12:31 PM.
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05-18-2005, 06:47 PM
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uhhh maybe its really easy vinyl siding warp
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05-18-2005, 06:54 PM
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new bussiness idea vinyl siding recycleing.lot of this stuff will be heading for landfills. at least aluminum could be painted or recycled for scrap.i get about $400 for 20sqs.
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05-19-2005, 11:18 AM
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I see no reason why vinyl siding can't be recycled. After all a few vinyl sidings and windows are made out of recycled plastics. It would make sence to me to recycle this material since there is soooo much of it (poundage) when you strip it off a house. Think of all the vinyl jobs you've stripped, now think of how many siding companies are in your area, now think of the tonage in the land fills of vinyl siding alone.
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05-19-2005, 02:11 PM
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i think the problem is recyclers have not figured out there is a large supply of this stuff .their not geared up to deal with it either. far as i know most of this stuff is made from virgin plastics which should make it even more atractive to recycle.
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05-19-2005, 04:49 PM
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stop botherin' me!
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Around here everyone recycles their plastgic bottles. Infact the city of Chicago makes you sort your garbage or they won't pick it up. Quite a few suburbs are the same. Now that's alot of plastic, a city of millions recycling all their empty pop bottles, milk cartons, detergent bottles etc...
I see no reason why a recycling facility couldn't take a few tons of vinyl siding per day. I do know that the facility, or a some facility some where, would need to be specialized to remove unrelated debris like insulation wood and fasteners from the mix. That's not something the empty bottle recyclers have to deal with.
The state and federal governments give all sorts of grants for enviromental work. I wonder if this qualifies. I think you are onto something Bergen.
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05-31-2005, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Rohland
Painting Vinyl Siding for $200 Alex.
The answer is:
The term used to describe the warping of vinyl siding that may occur when applying a darker color of paint than the original color of the siding.
What is __________.
Anyone care to answer this one.
I was aware of the problem that may occur but actually just learned the term used to describe it.
Tom Rohland, Jr.
Ranger Painting & Pressure Cleaning, Inc.
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so... uhm... whats the correct term?
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06-01-2005, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Humble Abode
so... uhm... whats the correct term?
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So...uhm...where the heck have you been?
We've been waiting for you.
By the way, what's your guess?
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06-01-2005, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Rohland
So...uhm...where the heck have you been?
We've been waiting for you.
By the way, what's your guess?
Tom Rohland, Jr.
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I'm with trey, vinyl siding warp. I actually did some research on it and couldn't find any thing else out.
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06-01-2005, 12:44 PM
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I looked on the internet and didn't find it either. Therefore, it does not exist. Someone lied to you.
Just kidding, what's the word already?
Jon
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06-01-2005, 08:18 PM
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Vinyl Siding Warp
Warping or buckling of vinyl siding panels that have been repainted.
Possible Causes
# Most likely cause is that vinyl siding was painted with a darker color paint than the original color. Dark paint tends to absorb the heat of the sun, transferring it to the substrate. When vinyl siding expands dramatically, it is not able to contract to its original dimensions.
Solution
# Paint vinyl siding in a shade no darker than the original. Whites, off-whites, pastels and other very light colors are good choices. Top quality acrylic latex paint is the best type of paint to use on vinyl siding, because the superior flexibility of the paint film enables it to withstand the stress of expansion and contraction cycles cause by outdoor temperature changes.
# Siding that has warped or buckled should be assessed by a siding or home repaint contractor to determine the best remedy. The siding may have to be replaced.
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What is the prize? Here's the link to where I found it.... http://www.homestore.com/HomeGarden/...?poe=homestore
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06-02-2005, 04:06 AM
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Valiant attempt my young warrior!
However, not the answer I was looking for.
NEXT!
LOL
Tom Rohland, Jr.
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PS If you'll scroll back thru the replies you will find the answer.
OIL CANNING.
OIL CANNING IS THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR.
I believe GRUMPY had the correct response.
Way to go GRUMPY!
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06-02-2005, 04:09 AM
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I found it on the Rohm and Haas Paint Quality Institute site.
Good stuff there, buddy.
Tom
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06-02-2005, 04:14 AM
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Go to www.paintquality.com
Where a great paint job begins.
Tom
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