Painting Over Stained Wood ?

davidanbess

Hi will be preping and painting over stained trim and doors tomorrow
I have seen on here people recommending acrylic primers, the fact that they dry so quick, your going to see some level of brush strokes surely the flow of paint is not as good as a slow drying oil primer.
Also what oil semi-gloss gives the best finish

Regards D/B

slickshift

I would not recommend an acrylic primer over previously stained wood
I would recommend an oil/alkyd based primer, or if it's really dark or questionable substrate, a shellac-based one
"Best" finish will be subjective...it depends on what you are looking for
I've used $150 gal oils that were so shiny they still look wet years later
I prefer the not quite so shiny (and more affordable) Satin Impervo
The Dulamel semi-gloss is pretty good too

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BCPNJ

Zinser Coverstain Oil Base primer. Workability is good, adhesion is great.. Add a little thinner and maybe two coats. Sands nice for top coat too. As for a finish?? Satin Impervo alkyd is hard to beat, but you wanted a semi. Have to think on that one.

MakDeco

I recommend Coverstain also but have used 123 also with good results to sticking to stain woodwork. Satin Impervo would work nicely over either also.

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PlainPainter

oil primers are usually best for many reasons. The reason that you would use a latex primer is because you feel it attains the same objectives with less aggravation, i.e. spirits cleanup, odor, etc. You can prime practically everything with BIN - but most guys will use other products because you can achieve the same objectives with less headaches. For instance if you have bleeding knots - nothing other than BIN will work. But for routine priming it is not necessary, even though it works great! The question becomes - do you feel priming with latex achieves the quality you want? I have wiped down wood panelling with Wilbond and then used a latex 100% acrylic primer, with great results. But then again perhaps an oil primer would have done the equivalent job without wiping prior with cleaning solvents. And I did get yellow/tannin bleeding through the primer and first topcoat. But this was for a store that couldn't work while using a very smelly oil primer. Although the wilbond was no prize either - but at least was more transient.

davidanbess

Thanks for the comments, basically I just wanted someone to reaffirm that oil primers will flow out better than the acrylic ones and to continue the flow thing you would need to apply an oil topcoat.

Regards D/B

slickshift

It's not a flow thing, it's a adhesion and bleed through blocking thing


This may be true
Though the gap, if there is one, is closing
As the oils of today are getting de-spec'd for VOC reasons, and the waterbornes are getting better for the same reasons, there is not much, if any, difference between the waterborne and oil versions of the same product when it comes to "the flow thing"

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