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12-13-2007, 03:33 PM
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Painting Anderson prefinished interior windows
How would you go about painting the interior portion of anderson windows, the surface feels like a plastic/vinyl product (that typical grayish white color)? The trim is going BM white dove and they want the windows to match.
My current plan (which I will test on a scrap piece) is:
Sand with 220 and then prime with XIM Plastic & Vinyl Primer.
Any thoughts or other ideas? I will be spraying Graham's Ceramic Satin, which has great adhesion, so maybe the extra priming step will not be necessary.
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12-13-2007, 03:47 PM
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I used to work for a moores dealer back in the day, and now I install those same windows  I would recommend the underbody primer 217 I believe (the one you use for a really high gloss finish, believe it or not I used to know every single product number). That white vinyl is a really thin laminet almost like Formica. I don't blame anyone for wanting to paint it, the shop people have been getting really sloppy with the nailing, and nail filling lately on set up units.
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12-13-2007, 04:11 PM
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It almost seems like a melamine cabinet type material. My biggest concern is that it holds up long term. They should have just ordered wood for the interior side, then it could be whatever they wanted for color w/o worrying about adhesion failure.
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12-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanV
It almost seems like a melamine cabinet type material. My biggest concern is that it holds up long term. They should have just ordered wood for the interior side, then it could be whatever they wanted for color w/o worrying about adhesion failure.
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Im gonna bet these are casements? The plastic is the only option if you want pre finished, other wise its clear pine, for whatever reason they wont do painted wood on the interior jambs on a casement ( i can understand why they wont do the sash but the jambs usually don't get much weather exposure
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12-13-2007, 09:17 PM
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make sure you sign off with the homeowner, when going that route.
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12-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeanV
How would you go about painting the interior portion of anderson windows, the surface feels like a plastic/vinyl product (that typical grayish white color)? The trim is going BM white dove and they want the windows to match.
My current plan (which I will test on a scrap piece) is:
Sand with 220 and then prime with XIM Plastic & Vinyl Primer.
Any thoughts or other ideas? I will be spraying Graham's Ceramic Satin, which has great adhesion, so maybe the extra priming step will not be necessary.
Thanks
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You could always test a small area first (topcoating without priming). Be sure to clean the surface really well after 220 sanding --it'd likely help to use some type of appropriate surface cleaner (e.g. KrudKutter TSP Subtitute PrePaint --I'm unsure though).
If the topcoat adheres well now, it'll likely continue to adhere for at least a couple more years..
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12-13-2007, 09:44 PM
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I have a test board in my shop. I told the GC on this one that there is no guarantee on that it will hold up long term, but it looks like the windows do not rub when tilted in for cleaning. When opening, they rub a little, depending on where that push up on the sash.
I really do not know why in a high end home, they get that kind of window. I never had to paint it before to match the trim, usually it is just called close enough. But for high end like this one, it will not fly with the HO's.
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12-13-2007, 09:53 PM
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Quote:
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it looks like the windows do not rub when tilted in for cleaning.
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WOW they are double hungs???? Painted wood WAS an option on those. I just assumed this was a casement and he was stuck with the laminated jambs
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12-14-2007, 07:35 AM
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They are double hungs on the upstairs, crank-outs and double hungs on the main floor.
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12-18-2007, 10:50 PM
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I would definitely use a good bonding primer after sanding with 220. We've done that successfully and had it hold up nicely.
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