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Old 03-16-2009, 02:32 PM   #1
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Hi everyone

I am new here and am having a big problem I was hoping you can help me out with.

I just finished a 3,000+ sqft home all new drywall and the owner bought all the paint for me to apply.She purchased sherwin William's pro block primer and a semi gloss almond for walls and ceiling. I told her we needed a pva but she wanted the pro block. Here is the problem, there are areas of the paint peeling off(but only when tape is applied and ripped off), mostly around the switch covers. Here is some more info, She was short a few gallons and I purchased some pva primer, those walls are not peeling at all and look great. I broomed all the walls and put one coat primer (coverd like a finish coat) and one coat of semi gloss almond.

My question is "what did I do wrong? or is it the wrong primer?

sorry for the long post but any help would be great
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Old 03-16-2009, 02:49 PM   #2
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You are putting tape on the walls? Why ?
1 coat of primer and 1 coat of finish with a semi? Why?
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Her way of telling me the paint is peeling(tape and rip off????). She owes me alot of money. Her idea to paint everything semi gloss.
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Sounds messy.
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Sounds terrible. Semi- on walls and ceilings? How long ago were the walls painted before applying tape?
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About 6 months
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hey prime----What's on the back side of the chip ??? Any dry wall dust ??

The tape test is a pretty agressive way to prove a point. A liitle duct tape and a good yank----hell any thing may come off. My paint rep. uses that to check adhesion. Have your S/W rep check the job and paint for you.

good luck with your customer..
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Lets see...you painted it 6 months ago...and you still have not been paid.
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That is why painters don't warranty HO supplied paint, if they use it.
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Exactly which problock?
Was temperature/humidity normal?
Primed and painted 6 months ago and now peeling?
Has the house been occupied?
You should be able to get your SW rep out there to help you.
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What is it with HO'S wanting to supply paint? we have gotten alot of that lately when going out on estimates..........

I hate it when they ask my advice about a paint problem ......and then when I give my humble expert advice..there comeback is well.......my mail man who paints said I should do this............
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Thanks for all the replies. The reps were out a few weeks ago and took some samples for testing. My question is do you think the prep rite pro block bond/seal is good enough for new drywall? there website says it is for previous painted drywall and other various uses. They recommend the 400 or high build for new drywall. what do you all think.

Temp was dry and from what I remember around 65 outside. Southern california.

The h/o says it has been peeling since The day we finished. The final walk through with her and nothing was said about it.

I dont think she had the money to pay.
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I have applied the cheapest flat paint my old boss could find as primer and have never seen it peel. If you have interior paint peeling then my bet would be a moisture problem. But then again people are sticking tape on the wall and "ripping it off" so that wouldnt exactly be optimum conditions.
I always let the customer know that if they supply the paint that I will bid it by the coat and will offer no warranty at all. I write it all in the contract and will not start untill the contract is signed.
Did you say you rolled on the paint or sprayed it? Shouldnt really matter, but just curious.

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Every time I have seen the paint peeling or cracking it most of the time has had to much moisture in the house or to cold..... And I think your right she most likely doesn't have the money. I do not let the H/O buy the the paint I use. I would rather get the paint myself and pass the discount on to them that I receive so that I use what I like and trust
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This still sounds messy.
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Did the paint start peeling after you asked her to pay up?
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Did the paint start peeling after you asked her to pay up?
of course, everything was fine until final was due.
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of course, everything was fine until final was due.

Mess recognized.
Now you get to flap your "Diplomacy Wings".

Fly high and far fearless one for your money is on the line.
Get paid.
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Hi everyone

I am new here and am having a big problem I was hoping you can help me out with.

I just finished a 3,000+ sqft home all new drywall and the owner bought all the paint for me to apply.She purchased sherwin William's pro block primer and a semi gloss almond for walls and ceiling. I told her we needed a pva but she wanted the pro block. Here is the problem, there are areas of the paint peeling off(but only when tape is applied and ripped off), mostly around the switch covers. Here is some more info, She was short a few gallons and I purchased some pva primer, those walls are not peeling at all and look great. I broomed all the walls and put one coat primer (coverd like a finish coat) and one coat of semi gloss almond.

My question is "what did I do wrong? or is it the wrong primer?

sorry for the long post but any help would be great
thanks
Sherwin Williams Pro Block primer needs to be top coated within 30 days or the top coat will not adhere properly. I didn't look at the data pages when i make this post but I am about sure it's in there.

Did you final coat the walls 30 days after you applied the primer?
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Sherwin Williams Pro Block primer needs to be top coated within 30 days or the top coat will not adhere properly. I didn't look at the data pages when i make this post but I am about sure it's in there.

Did you final coat the walls 30 days after you applied the primer?
I put the final on aprox. 4 days to a week after primer was applied
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Hmmm. Well dont use tape.
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