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03-29-2009, 09:35 PM
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BOB
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One Tone Sq.Ft. Pricing
I am new to the whole pricing by the square foot kind of thing, usually I advertise an 89 dollars special, any room under 200 square foot walls only with customer provided paint for 89$ ...college students love it....but living in a University town, every summer we have "turn" where there are thousands of make readies needed in a matter of weeks. Its great!!!! But everyone is asking for sq.ft. charges, wall ceiling and trim same color, customer provided paint, what should I charge?
EDIT****** the sq ft, is on an average 8 foot wall no casing, base or cieling paint. Just main wall collor so I gues the wall area would be 480sq ft....I m just looking for some help guys not a nutshot
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03-29-2009, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by buildinzach
I am new to the whole pricing by the square foot kind of thing, usually I advertise an 89 dollars special, any room under 200 square foot walls only with customer provided paint for 89$ ...college students love it....but living in a University town, every summer we have "turn" where there are thousands of make readies needed in a matter of weeks. Its great!!!! But everyone is asking for sq.ft. charges, wall ceiling and trim same color, customer provided paint, what should I charge?
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With your rates ....$.03 per sq/ft would be ok.
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03-29-2009, 09:51 PM
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Pro
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Well what is your overhead?
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03-29-2009, 10:20 PM
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Dave from Macatawa
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You are going to have to ask Silvertree for the code. Then you will know.
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03-29-2009, 11:44 PM
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BOB
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With your rates ....$.03 per sq/ft would be ok.
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jealous much?
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03-29-2009, 11:45 PM
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my overhead is none....I work alone, unless I have my guys with me its right around 20$perhour for there labor(thats for two of them)
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03-30-2009, 06:41 AM
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Allrounder Home Services
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03-30-2009, 07:38 AM
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Organic Painter
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We don't charge by the floor sq. ft. round here unless we are painting the floor.
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03-30-2009, 08:07 AM
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this would be for apartment complex and multi-unit complexes. The square footage is what all the home builders refer to also, so if there's anyone familiar with that please help.
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03-30-2009, 08:20 AM
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You need the secret code.
But I need permission from the Professional painters before I can give it to you. I don't want to get in trouble with the pros, because then I'll only get the SF guys.
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03-30-2009, 08:46 AM
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Organic Painter
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Dear Lil Buildinzack,
We are professional Painters and we all charge by the sq. ft., the sq. ft. of ceilings, the sq. ft. of walls, but we charge per opening on trim.
Once you figure out what you need to charge per item you can then figure out what the sq. ft. per apt. is going to cost if they are all they same. If you were digging a hole and was charging me to do it, wouldn't you want to know how deep it needs to be before giving me a price?
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03-30-2009, 09:37 AM
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If I owned a hole-digging company...I'd probably just advertise "any hole for $89, customer provides the shovel".
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03-30-2009, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buildinzach
my overhead is none....I work alone, unless I have my guys with me its right around 20$perhour for there labor(thats for two of them)
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Who pays for the brushes, rollers and tape that you use. That is overhead.
Do you drive to a jobsite? Do you use a vehicle with gas and insurance? That is all overhead.
Do you provide any insurance for your employess? I see that you don't and hopefully one of your friends doesn't fall off of a ladder and break his arm. Then you have some medical overhead.
What profit percentage would you like to make?
There is so much more to it than "how much should I charge". There isn't an answer without knowing some facts.
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03-30-2009, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buildinzach
my overhead is none....I work alone, unless I have my guys with me its right around 20$perhour for there labor(thats for two of them)
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Hey,don't let these guys give you any lip!
Are you making money?
Caring about things like overhead,profit and insurance is for suckers!
Keep doing what you're doing,89.00 per room is great!
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03-30-2009, 11:36 AM
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That be supportive and help each other thread didn't seem to have much of an effect.
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03-30-2009, 11:45 AM
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Plausible Deniability
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That be supportive and help each other thread didn't seem to have much of an effect.
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That post was about helping fellow contractors...The op is NOT a contractor.
He is someone with a paint brush that thinks he's a contractor.
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03-30-2009, 12:52 PM
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BOB
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ok Fellas,
Thanks for information.
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03-30-2009, 12:54 PM
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BOB
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is this the normal reply?
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03-30-2009, 12:56 PM
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BOB
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Originally Posted by Steve Richards
If I owned a hole-digging company...I'd probably just advertise "any hole for $89, customer provides the shovel".
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the only way this would work is if I said I would paint the room with a customer provided paint brush.............between austin and houston 89 bucks a room is an average advertised price..........
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03-30-2009, 01:32 PM
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Dave from Macatawa
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Zach - if you read any of the threads you will find the sqft question is the worst to ask. Lots of HO and hacks looking to check on pricing to beat down legit contractors. Actually Mr Mike gave you a pretty good response if you read it again.
Get ahold of RS Means Estimating guide and see what they tell you to charge for what you are doing. Check the city guides in the back of the guide for your local adjustment and use a Means book that is three years old. No body gets a job using Means cost figures out of the current book, they are usually high against the market.
Estimating is part science and part art. CT is a great resource but use the search tool before you ask a question and you will get farther with the CT users.
Just so you don't reference what I swing on my own time.........I just let out painting a 34 unit condo building (new) in Mich and is was $ 2.85/sqft of floor area. That is all the units, common areas, and stair towers. Nothing on the exterior. On single family new construction I am paying 2.85 to 3.50 per floor area. MI is very competitive and there are a ton of white collar workers in their 50's that now bid on paint jobs.
Good luck in TX. sounds like you are picking a niche that might work.
I checked your contact part and you did everything right in there so that is why I am giving you this much info. Keep at it this site is addictive.
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