Okay, I Give Up... What's The Inside Joke With Behr Paint?

George Z

Sure, use it.
I guess what I was trying to get to is,
there is no point getting involved in brand wars, that is not our battle.
Sure, some paints are better than others.
But is the fourth line PPG better than third line B.Moore. second line ICI etc. etc.
I don't care really.

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jack75

painters don't let other painters use behr

my eperience with beh paint was not very positive, as other members here already pointed out: it goes on thick, skins quickly but sags (if applied unevenly), it doesn't flow and spread well (making your brush 'sticky' after a short while), it doesn't cover well (particularly white semigloss for trim), and finally, it doesn't look impressive as end results.

but it's customers' homes and money, and i ask myself: do I care? i only care because it's my labor/time, and my work: as for my time, i'd add 50% more time to the estimate if the customer insists on using behr (it takes more time to apply carefully and properly in order to get good results), and as for my work, though i think behr finishes look inferior to that of ben moore or SW or MAB, I can live with that, because the differences are subtle and perhaps only noticeable to professional painters, and i don't usually stay there any longer when the work is complete

for my satisfaction of my finished work i always recommend against behr: i am happy with the finishes of BM's, SW's and MAB's top of line products such as regal, richlux etc. and my custormers will surely be happy too, in the long term..

Murphy

We do a lot of painting although we are not a paint company. But Behr is the absolute worst stuff I have ever used and I will tell customers right out if you buy behr go ahead and double my estimate.
Murph

CLASSY COLORS

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Workaholic

Holy ancient thread

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Sean

VO2MAX

It's the #1 rated paint...by stay at home moms!!!! Anyone that used that crap knows it sucks. I charge extra if I have to use it...it's called the dumbass fee. They don't tell the lawn guy what kind of fertilizer to use...they don't tell the tile guy what kind of grout to use...so don't let 'em tell the painter what kind of paint to use.

beachbum314

Have had that happen several times!

ucfjoe

since its brought back I might as well ask my question. I realize that a good paint job takes multiple coats with a good primer.

BUT for a simple exterior refreshing (darker color) without a separate primer is there a consensus on what the best "one coat" paint is. Is it Duration? I would expect it to fade over the years but would like it to last as long as possible and will spray as much as possible.

It's hard to say you get what you pay for since I think there is a lot of markup and price may not directly relate to quality. Within reason of course, a friend once insisted on Big Lots brand paint and needless to say it didn't hold up too well.

behrman

Why all the Behr bashing. Each product serves a purpose and Behr is designed for regular people. It does not make it a bad paint and for DIYers, it is ideal. Here is why.

Painting is hard work. The thinner the paint, the easier it is to apply. Thinner paint also tends to run, show brush and roller marks and requires a high level of skill to apply an even smooth coat. The DIYer does not usually possess the skills and needs a paint that is forgiving.

Behr paint is very thick and will give even the strongest guy a sore arm after a few hours painting with it. The thickness allows it to flow and avoid the issues associated with thinner paints. So the DIYer can obtain decent results, paint a room in 2 hours and then nurse his sore arm with a few beers and a football game for the rest of the day.

A pro cannot spend 8-10 hours a day laying down such thick paint and can obtain superior results with a thinner paint in the same amount of time with less physical exertion.

Maybe a little less arrogance towards DIYers and products designed for them would help the trade since the DIYers wont call you because you are arrogant and the DIYer thinks you water your paint down to rip them off.

chris n

Behr paint is very thick and will give even the strongest guy a sore arm after a few hours painting with it. The thickness allows it to flow and avoid the issues associated with thinner paints.

all true including the most important statement

also tends to run, show brush and roller marks and requires a high level of skill to apply an even smooth coat. The DIYer does not usually possess the skills and needs a paint that is forgiving.


you are arrogant and the DIYer thinks you water your paint down to rip them off.

water down paint?? cannot think of any reason at all to do this. The customer is paying for the paint, no reason what so ever to water it down Talk about about arrogance

WisePainter

Let me tell you why Behr is ideal for me, because after the HO completely screws up the trim, the carpet, and their marriage they call me and I arrive with a quality product in my arms and make it all better...for a price of course.

In my 10 years of experience I have received positive feedback from clients I have turned on to paints that weren't sold at a box store when they had a simple bathroom repaint to do.
They were amazed that the quality paints performed better with much less effort.
But you are right, they (Homeowners) should have to slave hard with a substandard product to achieve good results...

Behr paint is very thick only because they use a cheaper base ingredient called "clay", when was the last time you watched "clay" flow?

HO's take at least 2 days to paint a single room, everyone knows that.

lol.

I shouldn't be responding to a member with 1 post named "behrman" arguing the benefits of Behr paint in a Behr thread.

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behrman

I am not saying that contractors do, I am saying the perception of people who are not in the biz is that it is widely done and is a major factor in a DIYer deciding to paint by himself.

It is a shame that people no longer hold the respect for craftsman in this country like they once did. It would be nice if some of the larger paint companies, trade organizations and unions did advertising campaigns to support the trade and explained the benefits of using a pro. They bombard the airwaves promoting milk, why no do the same for craftsman.

behrman

LOL. I signed up because I read this thread and was put off by many of the comments in here. I was a painter in the USAF (Corrosion Control Specialist), painted many cars on the side and worked with a union contractor painting new office construction during the summer in college.

Using Behr on a wall is like using Imron on a car. It is forgiving of the unskilled painters' errors and will produce acceptable results from an amatuer.

IMHO, a person lacking painting skills should use Behr because it is somewhat idiot proof.

bobko

IMHO most contractors today in my area are just homeowner diy ers that went out and bought a tool or two and went into business. In my trades I spent many years at appreticeship programs and lots of grunt time for masters (5 years for electrical before I could test). I have even taught some of the trades now that I am old. Where are the master tradesmen? If we act in a professional manner and treat our work as a true trade then we are eligible for the respect due. thats my opinion on that. I have never signed up for one of these and will never again. And thats all I have to say about that! Have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!

nEighter

thin and crap is a couple good words to describe it.

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PatrickM

Yeah I agree, Behr paint is sub par to put it mildly, but hey, they have good advertising, so what does quality have to do with anything?

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nEighter

Overlooking the quality on this question.. who do we have to turn to if we ever decided to buy your paint if when there is a problem? Even the national chains/paint stores have problems occasionally with their paint. I go in, explain the problem and am either 1.) reimbursed, 2.) given new paint, 3.) in the case with a big nation wide paint store that messed up the color on me mid paint.. they paid to have it fixed and gave me the paint to do so. How are you going to be able to give me that same quality of service/back your brand like that?

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chris n

I cannot wait to hear the answers.

PA woodbutcher

I guess you got someone's attention

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