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Old 04-10-2007, 04:22 PM   #1
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Nicotine stains

Hello all,I am painting an interior rental property next week and the property has been trashed,the worst part is the walls and ceilings are covered with heavy nicotine stains.I am wondering what is the best product to clean the walls with and the best primer to seal the stains.Thanks Doug.

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Old 04-10-2007, 04:59 PM   #2
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tsp to clean

SW preprite problock to seal

I've done it, these are a perfect combination...you can't and won't go wrong--good luck
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Clean it first then use kills original on everything.
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tsp to clean

SW preprite problock to seal

I've done it, these are a perfect combination...you can't and won't go wrong--good luck
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Hello all,I am painting an interior rental property next week and the property has been trashed,the worst part is the walls and ceilings are covered with heavy nicotine stains.I am wondering what is the best product to clean the walls with and the best primer to seal the stains.Thanks Doug.
Tsp to clean Gripper from ICI to prime. make sure you let it cure for 24 hours before painting.

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I was going to Say TSP then B-I-N to prime.
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I also use Bin but not tsp as Zinnzer says not to wash with it if using 123 or BIN.In severe cases oil based stain killers can reactivate the oils in the stains causing bleed thru.
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Kids, you don't know where that money has been!

And then...

After doing all that...

high humidity can cause it to seep through anyway!

This nicotine is one of the reasons I got out of apartment painting!

I was asked to look at an apartment that was totally orange (not paint). There was orange ash in the carpet... window frames... puke! Oh, and it had popcorn ceilings! I happened to have my wife and kids with me and let them look through the door to see how some live. I also found some money on the carpet and asked my kids if they wanted to put it in their mouths. They said no, of course! I said that this is one reason why you don't put money in your mouth! You don't know where it's been... except now you know one place it may have been!

I used TSP substitute (twice) and used BIN... 2 coats. Oh, and it's kind of hard to wash popcorn ceilings (if anyone has any bright ideas, let us know) Nicotine absorbs into the walls and will act as a time-release even after using TSP or the no-rinse substitute and sealing. I've talked with other guys who have also tried different things. Several of them had gotten complaints that the bathrooms bled. It seems to be the humidity in there.

I started weasling out of these jobs by getting too expensive. The money was good, but the jobs stunk...literally. I've done rentals where the nicotine was running down the walls... I wanted a higher quality of life... blah...blah...blah...

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nicotine stains

Thanks everyone for the good info.Sounds like everyone has had the misfortune of painting over nicotine.I was wondering if anyone has used coverstain or kilz oil oderless and if they have worked.Thanks Doug
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kilz is a bad word in here

the cover stain should work fine...actually, check out the site for yourself http://www.zinsser.com/primerapps.asp
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