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Old 04-24-2009, 09:48 AM   #21
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Re: Need More Estimates Before I Can Decide.


Why do you have to be so judgmental about attire (important yes but how far)and the choice of tools, circumstances sometimes go against you and you have to just get it done.
btw I too would coat that in about 1/2 hour and my price would also be in the range of think.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:51 AM   #22
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I start at around $300.00 for a ceiling like that one.
Start at around $300, but after discounts, signing bonuses, and high-pressure sales tactics, the closing price is around $79.95.
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19.00 per LF ????? Wow, you should think abot speaking at the next PDCA Estimating semminar that is unbeliveable............
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Start at around $300, but after discounts, signing bonuses, and high-pressure sales tactics, the closing price is around $79.95.

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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors.
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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors.
Dude, seriously? Talk about shady business practices.
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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors.
That is beyond shady. That could be constued as a type of price fixing
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Start at around $300, but after discounts, signing bonuses, and high-pressure sales tactics, the closing price is around $79.95.
I measure a ceiling like that one and lets say it is 10x16 that is 160 Sq. Ft. of surface to be cleaned, scraped, and 2 coats applied to it. I charge $2.48 per sq. ft. and if they participate in all the discount options they can save 15 to as much as 25% depending on the moon and stars. Every job is not subject to get a discount. so $2.48 per sq. ft. of a rolling type of surface in the condition of the picture is a fair price and with 15% off it would be 337.28.



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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors
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Dude, seriously? Talk about shady business practices.
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That is beyond shady. That could be constituted as a type of price fixing
All I can say is Wow to that.
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Who do you think you are, OPEC?
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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors.

GENIUS!!!

Brutality much like business begins with a "B".

hey so does "begins".

huh.
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Dude, seriously? Talk about shady business practices.
I wouldn't say its shady, it is a way to ensure that you are bidding apples to apples against qualified contractors.

It could be a form of collusion but if the customer wants you to supply the contractors to bid it probably doesn't qualify as collusion.

Anyway, if you provide a quality product at a reasonable price there is no harm done.
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I wouldn't say its shady, it is a way to ensure that you are bidding apples to apples against qualified contractors.

It could be a form of collusion but if the customer wants you to supply the contractors to bid it probably doesn't qualify as collusion.

Anyway, if you provide a quality product at a reasonable price there is no harm done.
Sorry, but no. You can slice it, dice it, bake it, or fry it. It is still shady.
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First off , the zip roller was his choice and he is a hell of a mechanic, next off , his clothes were fine, company hat and shirt..........

As for socks, cut off shorts etc........like I said before great mechanic so I have no problem with it.

Could he have used a 9 inch lambs wool or simular tool, absolutey but I can tell you again he knows what he's doing and he produces every day.

My post was replying to Mike 's statement of selling work at $19.00 a LF

That would have been one very pricey porch ceiling..........

Now excuse me while I go take off my white socks with high water jeans..

Here is my guy wearing proper attire and using the right tools.........for you...
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Again, I didn't read all the posts but here is what I do when a customer needs multiple quotes.

I supply them for the customer. I have friends that own companies, I have them call and supply a price that is more than mine. The customer doesn't always go along with it but it doesnt hurt to say that you can have other comparable quotes supplied to them by qualified contractors.
Hey, where is Decks Etc.? Would this qualify as "unethical"?

I think this is odd, what customer would want you to supply all 3 bids for them? That is a set up for failure right there?

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"Sorry, but no. You can slice it, dice it, bake it, or fry it. It is still shady."

I have to agree with his statement.
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Here is my guy wearing proper attire and using the right tools.........for you...

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Here is my guy wearing proper attire and using the right tools.........for you...

Is that a Wagner Paint Eater? Does that thing work?
Also, satin finish on that house was a bold move. Shows off all of the waves in the shakes. Nice lookin' job.
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I see a problem here, I was referring to Ln. Ft. of cornice, not sq. ft. or a ceiling... Are we on the same page now, I charge about $2.50 per sq. ft. of a ceiling like that and up to $19 per ln. ft. of cornice.
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I'm no painter, but I usually have a hard time with dark colors covering in 1 coat. It could definitely be me, but I would roll that thing and it would take me forever, might as well try it with the little roller, it probably wouldn't take me any longer.

It sure looks good though and the price seemed very reasonable.
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Mike, not to start crap, but after reading thread after thread of your great sales and closing techniques, all I can say is that you are truly the "Discount King". I tend to regard salespeople or business owners who have to offer "closing discounts" as people who either over-priced their initial bid or people who just dont know how to bid.

I really dont care to hear about your great closing ratio as after reading thread after thread about that you did so much back-pedalling on what you considered a "sales call" that your ratio was only average to good....not great.

But I gotta hand it to you, you are one helluva salesperson. You've got your own little fiefdom here on CT and obviously you can bull**** with the best of them....which is why you probably dont go over to PaintTalk where most of the guys would eat you for lunch, and still be hungry after.

A word of advice; if you're going to post such fantastic advice, show the proof, and it really helps if you keep your story straight.
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Is that a Wagner Paint Eater? Does that thing work?
Also, satin finish on that house was a bold move. Shows off all of the waves in the shakes. Nice lookin' job.
Thanks...yes it is a Paint Eater, we keep them in the trailer and for the money they work OK......

House was built in 1800 old New Englang style, first time we used SW Resilance paint worked well, we primed with peelbond and brushed and rolled 2 coats of finish. For deep colors on doors etc we used BM Aura.
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