National Construction Estimator 2007

painterofeveryt

Anyone have one yet? Would You be kind enough to check on two prices for me please? first one is paint,plaster or drywall...prime or stain .39 a square foot one coat is .41 cents 2 coats is.64 ..what is it in the new book? also mask woodwork per lineal foot of woodwork...is .86 cents a lineal foot,what is it in the new book ?complicated question I know,but thank you for any replies !

JMGP

I have it but dont really understand your question???

Its only a guide/tool... I wouldnt actually use those numbers in the book unless of course they will actually work for you...

Figure your prep out by the hour NOT by production rates... each job has different factors of prep...

ONLY use your production rates for the actual application of materials...

Your sq/ft price for second coat production rate should be less than your first/primer coat and your third should be less than second... it takes less time and effort to apply second and/or third coats....

and there are different rates for brush or spray....

if my response didnt help.. sorry... ask your question another way??....I will see if I can answer it correctly....

Workaholic

I did not know that there was such a book. I guess it is the kelly blue book of construction . interesting

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painterofeveryt

thank you for the time to read my question...please disregard .I ordered another book for myself,Thank You !!!!!

THINKPAINTING

There are many books out there for paint estimating, some are very good. The thing that kills me is most of sq ft prices we were using 10 yrs ago, are being used today in 2007?

We were getting .65 cts for walls, 2.00 per lf trim 10 yrs ago. We do not let builders or the market dictate what to charge for our work, why do I want to compete with companys that have no idea what the hell they are doing?

Know your production rates and most of all your hourly rate, and profit
after your overhead.

Len Fife has a program called Labor Calc, check it out.

sisisi

From Houston, Tx. Which book is good for pricing, that qives good explanation about s.f. to keep prices on good balance. Not sacrificing the quality

slickshift

I find that book amusing
Granted, I'll check it for stuff I don't have a good grasp on
But the stuff I do...it can be pretty funny

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Originally Posted by ModernStyle I have never used this crap before and I pray to the paint gods that I never have to use it again, I would rather use Behr

Workaholic

I bought it a few months back after my first response in this thread, it is just a basic guideline imo.

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Ed the Roofer

I just downloaded the free trial version of National Estimator, and at first glance, yes the prices are way off.

BUT!!!

Read the adjusment figures in the front and the geographical weighted variances, for Chicago area, add 22 %, as an example, and it actually came pretty close to the pricing formula I have.

They definitely tell you to make all sorts of adjustments, and it could be a wuseful "Guide" on estimating, but previous historical data will not be replace.

Just make sure you do not use the table amounts in the category alone. I actually was surprised. They also said, as a ball-park, add 3 % to 6 % to the figures in addition to the other adjustments to account for the 6 month lag from being published and through the fall of 2007.

Ed