Muralo

phinsher

I saw Muralo mentioned in another thread. We're now using alot of Muralo semigloss on trim. It looks as good as any waterborn I've seen and sticks like glue to old oil based paint. I love the stuff except it tends to run a little worse than some others on the second coat.

Anyone else using it? any tips on the runs?

MakDeco

I haven't had any running problems, I felt that Moore's waterbourne ran more and dried to quickly

PlainPainter

I use Muralo exclusively. About the running - on the first coat you may be putting it on a freshly primed wood door or something - in which case that muralo just soaks right in through the coverstain or whatever you're using - or it's a repaint in which case you sanded it - so the paint has some bite to it. By the second coat, you now have this muralo finish with it's proprietary tight small resins that has sealed up. Now the second coat has nothing to grab onto - well it's resins will stick great, but you have to lay off on the amount of paint you use. I also sand between coats with 220 grit on trim. I also have thrown out polyester/nylon blend brushes and use just straight 100% nylon purdy brushes with the ultra trim paints - the paint will leave the bristles better making, especially if you pre-wet the brush, lessening the tendency to put on the paint thick - which is ok for thicker paints. I found that just using it repetitively you will become an Ace at applying muralo waterbourne - I have gotten so good at it, that my finishes are much smoother than BM oil impervo.

-plainpainter

PlainPainter

Something a Grahams/muralo paintstore owner told me - was that acrylics bond to the polyester bristles of your brush, but not to the nylon. Polyester bristles are used to provide more stiffness, as some contractors find nylon bristles to be too soft and go limp. But with Muralo paint - it's a new generation latex that is thinner, it doesn't need the stiffness of polyester bristles. So the paint will flow off better, this is why there will be less of tendency to overapply - thus seeing dribbles. I agree, BM waterbourne is truly runny, and have never figured how to avoid it - tried every time of brush known to mankind and not one of them was useful.

-plainpainter

PAINTWERKS

Yeah we use Muralo all the time on trim. It is alittle watery. Its the best for doors , we use the velour roller and roll them out. Looks as if they were sprayed. Also the stuff dries as hard as a rock 2 hours after putting it on. For walls we use there Ultra Ceramic Matte. That stuff is amazing, blows Moores matte out of the water. Ive gotten dirt stains, finger prints and my leather couch rubs on the wall. Just take the Magic Eraser and it comes clean. One thing Ive noticed with the Ceramic is that it covers great in 1 coat( we always do 2 coats ), but the coverage is pretty poor. If that makes sense.

Dan

PlainPainter

I have noticed great coverage with the matte product. I did a store once that had dark wood panelling. We took a bunch of cloths and wiped down all the wood panelling with Wilbond - and while it was still tacky - we rolled on a coat and brushed the wood trim which was like 40 years old at this point, with the 2205 acrylic primer - and then two coats of matte. Still looks phenomenal 3 yrs later in a camera store environment!

painterofeveryt

Yes it does make sense,because even though these paints are dry to the touch they still flow out for a couple of days or so,strange but true (did a deep red job 3 coats,looked like crap,,called the company they said to leave it alone for two days and take a peek at it then,,,wow ! it looked fine ,didnt even need a 4th coat.

MakDeco

Thanks for the tip on the brush, I had stop using all nylon brushes for the fact that they are too soft but Thepaintstore.com sent me one with my order cause he was out of stock on something else so I will try it next I am doing some trim.