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Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
What do you guys do about the cold spots in the walls where there is little insulation? This house I'm painting right now has various spots in the walls where the paint won't cure or does cure but only after it has become runny and blotchy.
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
It shouldn't be doing that unless it's really cold inside too
Too cold really In that case, I warm it up with Mr. Heater's "Big Buddy" ![]() It could be the paint too Maybe it's not good in the cold Really I rarely run into that problem with the good stuff A step up in paint might help
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
Not to hijack, but I'd like to hear more about Mr. Heater's Big Buddy. Specs, price, etc?
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
On new construction we used torpedo kerosene heaters. Bad smell, but every contractor in the subdivision would be in the houses we worked in. Also, is the paint climitized? You cant bring in cold paint on warm walls. Bring the paint in a day ahead and let it sit in the room with the heat on. Cheap paint though is just that. If you are using lower grade paint do not do it. Only a few bucks difference between lines can work wonders.
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
This ***** happens in the winter in cold climates, especially with water based paints, why are so many shocked about this?
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Self contained and legal for inside using two camp stove propane tanks Adapter for a "grill" sized propane tank available, but the propane must be left outside Battery operated "blower" isn't a tornado, lol, but helps sometimes And can be A/C powered with a wall wart I use this thing not only to warm up too cold rooms, I use it to dry out from wet wallpaper removals and to quick dry paint when I need to push it a little...heat up the room to sweat box territory to dry it quickly to re-coat when I hafta git er done Doesn't take up much room either I'll throw it in I I think I might use it, and it doesn't leave the van in the cold months I got it at Northern, going for a buck thirty now http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...7957_200307957 Specs: http://www.mrheater.com/productdetai...atid=41&id=116
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The WallsQuote:
So the kerosene takes care of the odor??
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
The house is at 65 degrees day and night. Paint was sitting in the house for several days before using. Outdoor temps ranged from the single digits below zero to teens above zero. Now that it's forecasted to be in the 30's this week, that should help out.
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I thought it would be colder inside That really shouldn't need to be any warmer in there Either those spots are really, really, cold, or the paint is really sensitive to cold Or some other issue (moisture...sound like that would be froze though) Hopefully the warmer outside temp will help Maybe bring in a few heaters I'd consider upgrading the paint
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
I run into this often here in Michigan, I keep a couple of 16" fans on the truck to circulate the air and speed drying. Even use them in the summer just to speed things up between coats.
I find the same problem with drywalling, the inside corners on exterior walls don't dry as fast, so I always leave a fan or two running in the room to make sure everything dries.
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Mike Danahy
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
this happened to me last week... Not sure if it was a strip of insulation missing, a cold air draft coming down from the attic, or a bad patch job from an old stove that may or may not have been there...
anyhow, sames as all the others did above. Bust out the heater, not too hot, not too close either or she'll crack.... Works great in a pinch, but hate it when it happens. |
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
That is strange. Have the spots been primed with kilz or something? We have the same as the rest torpedoe heaters and fans. With the temp you said, it should not be cold enough to cause spots. If the spots were kilz spots and for some reason it was to humid like a dryer with not enough venting, At 65 day and night it just does'nt really explain the spots. You could prime the spots with kilz and repaint the wall.
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
Everytime this happens to me... (which is maybe once every year or two), it always seems to be in a plaster home. It's not a spot, but rather a whole section between studs. It's winter, and that section of wall is sooooo much colder. I don't think it's so much of the cold that makes it run, but a condensation issue, similar to a window when there is an increase in humidity sort of thing...
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Re: Interior Painting And Cold Spots On The Walls
[quote=slickshift;196978]Freakin' awesome lil heater
Self contained and legal for inside using two camp stove propane tanks Adapter for a "grill" sized propane tank available, but the propane must be left outside Battery operated "blower" isn't a tornado, lol, but helps sometimes And can be A/C powered with a wall wart I use this thing not only to warm up too cold rooms, I use it to dry out from wet wallpaper removals and to quick dry paint when I need to push it a little...heat up the room to sweat box territory to dry it quickly to re-coat when I hafta git er done Doesn't take up much room either I'll throw it in I I think I might use it, and it doesn't leave the van in the cold months I got it at Northern, going for a buck thirty now Sounds good for smaller spaces. We get into 3500-6500 sqft. The only thing good for that is a torpedo 170000btu. When we hit small spec houses in the 1600 sqft the torpedo is still the best bet. |
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The areas with the cold spots indeed are on plaster walls near the entry doors and a spot in the middle of a wall nowhere near an opening and along the upper corners. I do have a Coleman Procat heater and it works well for warming up spot areas but I only have one heater and several spots to heat. I mentioned earlier that it is going to warm up this week so hopefully it'll help when applying the second coat. |
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