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New Guy
Trade: painting
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Below is a consumer report study I came across for exterior paints.
2006 Results Best paints -- California Fresh Coat Velvet (flat), Glidden Endurance (semigloss), Pratt & Lambert Accolade Eggshell (flat) and Glidden Endurance Satin (low luster) and , Glidden Spread-Dura (gloss) [a best buy], Glidden Spread-Dura Satin (low luster) [a best buy] Worst paints -- Glidden Evermore (flat), True Value Weather All (semigloss) McCloskey </I>Multiuse (low luster) , ALL Benjamin Moore paints. Note: Care must be taken to select exactly the right Glidden paint. Some are rated best, some worst. Pittsburg, and Devoe paints weren't rated. 2005 Results<H3 align=left>Best paints -- California Fresh Coat Velvet (flat), Glidden Endurance (semigloss), Pratt & Lambert Accolade Eggshell (flat) and Glidden Endurance Satin (low luster) and , Glidden Spread-Dura Satin (low luster) [a best buy] Worst paints -- Dunn-Edwards Permashell Eggshell (low luster) [clearly the worst paint], Para Ultra Velvet (flat) and Glidden Spread-Dura Satin (flat) 2003 ResultsSeveral well known paints weren't rated. Benjamin Moore, Pittsburg, Sears and Devoe, for example. The best flat paints across colors wereM.A. Bruder Sea Shore, California Fresh Coat Velvet, Glidden Endurance Satin (low-luster), Pratt-Lambert Accolade. Worst paints -- Sherwin-Williams Super Paint and multiple Sears paints. I think this tolls the death knell for Sherwin-Williams quality. They've rated poor for several years now. 2001 update Many paints weren't rated. Benjamin Moore, Walmart, and Devoe, for example. The 2001 report isn't particularly helpful. Benjamin Moore and Sherwin-Williams are not included -- apparently because of recent formulation changes. In this report California Premium Velvet Acrylic Flat (flat), Pratt-Lambert Accolade (eggshell) and Glidden Dulux Endurance (satin) were the best paints. The worst paints were Sears Premium Weatherbeater (flat), Glidden Spread Dura (flat) and True Value Weatherall (all) were 2000 results The best flat paint across colors was California Premium Velvet Acrylic Flat, but it doesn't adhere well to chalked paint. For low-luster, aka eggshell, Sears Best Weatherbeater Satin is pretty good overall. In semigloss Benjamin Moore MoorCraft or MoorGlo are probably best overall. The new results varied quite a bit from the '93 results. Pratt-Lambert Accolade was a clear winner then and is no better than mid-quality now. Sears Best Weatherbeater Satin came up some from '93 and Sherwin-Williams Super paint fell sharply. Benjamin Moore came back up a little. Sherwin-Williams A-100, Wal-Mart and Devoe paints weren't rated this time. The '93 results are summarized below: BEST: Pratt & Lambert Accolade Eggshell (flat) [Yes, it's named eggshell. It's actually flat.], Pratt & Lambert Vapex (flat), Sherwin Williams A-100 (flat) WORST: Devoe Wonder-Shield (flat), Glidden Spread House Dura-Gloss (semi-gloss), Sears Best Weatherbeater Premium (semi-gloss) Sears paints illustrate why you can't simply judge by brand, or even product within brand. Weatherbeater Premium in flat rated pretty good (6th of 28) This was their mid-priced paint. Best Weatherbeater Satin was OK -- 10th This was their expensive paint. Weatherbeater Premium Low Luster Satin wasn't so good -- 23rd This was their cheaper paint. Weatherbeater Premium in semigloss was the worst paint tested -- 28th of 28. I have always been a big fan of MAB seashore,SW superpaint,shows how much I know ![]() </H3> |
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Suck it up, or shut up
Trade: Flooring, wall covering, Handy-man
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: wisc
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
I've used SW superpaints for a while, I like them
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Educated Applicator
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Was it a survey?.....or did they actually test the products?
Not sure I agree with very much of the results of this consumer report.
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New Guy
Trade: painting
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 24
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
It was a test,I tend not to agree with some also but then again as I stated..I mainly use SW,MAB and F&H,guess I need to experment a little more in the future.
Lets be honest paint is a very competive business so I am pretty sure all have a top grade along with some bad choices,seeings as it;s not rocket science. In the end prep is key along with just about anyones top of the line brand,as a painter we tend to base best paints on coverage,workability etc,seeings as it takes 5 to 10 years before most top notch paints break down,cant speak for the rest but I rarely go back 10 years later to see how my job is holding up. |
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Back from the dead...
Trade: Paperhanger/Painter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Do a search for Consumer Reports, and you'll see this:
http://www.contractortalk.com/showth...nsumer+reports |
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Pro
Trade: Professional Painting Contractor
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 296
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Its called comsumer reports right? not professional's reports. I don't pay much attention to that report i'm pretty sure they get their info from homeowners and not professionals.
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Deck Cleaner
Trade: Deck Cleaning, Staining, Restoration
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Havertown, PA
Posts: 984
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Consumer Reports is a biased rag.
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Pro
Trade: Painting & Remodeling
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 468
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Re: I Find Some Of These Names,shocking
Whenever one of these reports come out I laugh because they are rated based on a homeowner DIY project specs. They are considering price, one coat coverage (I don't do one coat do you?) and over all convenience factors that don't count for us.
Yes coverage counts but it has to cover and flow. coverage also counts for sq ft too. Lowes has some great covering interior paint but man it spreads like honey, slow..... Next is the look when it dries, I for one am looking at the texture when I am done and I have never seen any glidden paint give me the great texture of Regal or Super Satin. I will go with my experience and they can shove their reports. I have used the reports in the past if one of the paints I happen to use gets a favorable rating but not usually. |
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