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We Got Ya Covered
Trade: Painting/Remodeling Contractor
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: AZ.
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How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Hi Everyone this is my first post. Glad i found this site. seems to be very informitive. Just wondering if a followup call to a prospective customer is a good idea after leaving a bid on a job. Trying to find ways of raising my closing rate. any sugjestions greatly appreciated.
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Back from the dead...
Trade: Paperhanger/Painter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Always.
Unless I didn't want the job in the first place. |
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Trade: Painting & Remodeling
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Almost never. I tell people upfront that I am not high pressure and I let our product of high quality work sell itself. I let them know that I don't want to be a pest and call them back so if they have any questions feel free to call me anytime.
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Systems Fanatic
Trade: Painting
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Location: Houston, TX
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Same for us.
About 5% of the people we call are ready to go, and our call just provides an easy way to get the process going. Others are very appreciative of the follow up, ask some questions, and ultimately hire us. I am certain that follow up calls help. Brian Phillips |
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Trade: Painting Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SW Suburban Chicago
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Ditto,
But how long do most guys wait?
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Deck Cleaner
Trade: Deck Cleaning, Staining, Restoration
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Havertown, PA
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?Quote:
Maybe this would make it more comfortable.. "Hi Mrs Johnson, Bman calling from Bman Painting. I just wanted to give you a follow up courtesy call to see if you had any questions I may not have adressed for you the other night" Guess how many times you will hear this? "Oh, Bman, hi, thank you for calling, actually we did have a couple of questions" Answer them and the job is yours. Don't make that call and the next guy that comes down the pike that does answer them lands the job. (after you did all of the educating) |
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Trade: hack painting
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Almost never..unless I really wanted the job, or it's a past client.
I don't really do proposals though. After I look at the job, I type up a contract, and send it to them. If they sign and send it back, I put them on my schedule, if they don't send it back within the 60 days I specify in that contract, then I figure I didn't get the job. Don't really matter/care why, so there's no reason to inquire. I know most folks here don't do it that way...but it's been working fine for me for 27 years, and I'm too old to change my ways now (I've also recently started yelling at the neighbor kids to stay off my lawn). |
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Back from the dead...
Trade: Paperhanger/Painter
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
My schedule is:
2 days later Then 5 days later Then 2 weeks later Then 1 month later I have made 4 call backs within 1 month of submitting the proposal. If I can't sell them by then, I probably won't ever. But that file stays in my 'open submitted proposals' folder until they tell me its sold to someone else, or quit calling, etc. Sometimes, I go through that folder just for kicks and start calling everyone left in it. I have scored a couple jobs months later. Hey, it only takes a minute or two to call or leave a message. It is not high pressure, its just 'touching base' with them. I use the excuse that I was "cleaning off my desk, and came across your proposal. What is the status of this job?" |
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Also, if you are a 1-man shop, it doesn't really matter. But if you are trying to keep a crew busy, it matters.
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?Quote:
I've only been a 1 man operation for the last 12 of those 27 years. Back then I'd also "come down" on bids if I had to, to keep my guys working. Now , like I said, I'm old and cranky. But I know that if I don't get a job, it only means I'll be working for someone else instead. |
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Trade: Professional Painting Contractor
Join Date: May 2007
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
If you want the job call back anywhere with-in 3 days no more than 7. Three days is plenty for the prospect to get other prices, and or decide what the want to do. Dont wait to long they might lose the desire or most importantly sign up with someone else..
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?Quote:
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
I never said to come down on bids. I never do, unless the scope of work is changed. I meant that if you have 1 mouth/family to feed, the volume of sales is less important than if you have several to feed. So the aggressiveness of follow ups is adjusted accordingly to volume of sales needed.
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?Quote:
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Trade: Painting
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Location: New York City
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Same here. I close a high percentage of my on-site estimates. The prospects that say they'll "get back to me" tend to be price shoppers and I almost never win bids with price shoppers. The only exception to the rule is with brokers/agents. I always call them back.
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Trade: Painting & Remodeling
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
I am not saying this will work for everyone, and now that we are growing I will be ding more call backs. I have hired a full time foreman so I can concentrate more on sales and growth. Our volume is increasing and I don't want to lose good people during the winter.
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General Contractor
Trade: General Contractor
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
It’s not the wallet it’s the emotion. How many customers not aware of the cost to have the service performed, may be have a baby on the way plans for a wedding, they enjoyed the experienced they had with you and will use your company when the time is right. What will you trigger when the phone rings, are they reading a book, how about having a birthday party, just getting in from work, just about to get in the shower. Calls trigger a yes or no response why trigger a no when you have a yes they just have to add you in there budget. Using the mail works great for us it’s less intrusive.
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Trade: Wallcovering Installation
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Norfolk, MA
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
Never have I called back after submitting a bid. I usually hear right away if they want my services.
I would feel like a beggar if I made one (I'm not saying I would SOUND like one, and I'm not saying you guys are begging - this is MY Albatros, not yours) I like this following approach, and it will make me feel better making a follow up, thanks. Quote:
Now, last winter between X-mas and New Years, I sent off emails to all the answered bids, with the excuse that I was cleaning up the year's paperwork and would like to place their estimate in the proper file. Were they still interested in my estimate or have they made other provisions. 75% said they wanted me to do the work , but were waiting for........(insert excuse here)...... NOT ONE called or emailed back. ---- But hey, who needs work ??? I'm a kept man, I gots me a suga mamma with a big fat trust fund, I just work to get me out of the house and build my self esteem (hmmmm, this reeks of: )
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Trade: Fence Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
I probably call back about 50% of the estimates that have not given me an answer. Of these, I've gotten around 5% of the jobs. Lately people have found prices less than my materials costs.
I try to find out if it's a reputable company, but a price that at least 1/3rd less then mine, they just think I'm scamming them. It's been killing me lately, these along with the tire kickers. The worst is that the largest fence company around has decided to offer the lowest price guaranteed. I know that their quality is not that great, as do some past customers, butlow price rules around here.
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Painting & Restoration
Trade: Painting Contractor
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: AKRON PENNSYLVANIA
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Re: How Many Here Do A Follow Up Call To A Prospective Customer After Leaving A Bid ?
I do not normally call back.
Once when I was slow (around june or july) I gave a quik callback to 5 est. out of 5 I got 4 of the jobs --but prob they would have called me anyway, I jumped the gun and was scared after they didnt call the next day! ha Anyway my closing rate dropped to 50% was at 75% so i am going to have postcards sent the day after the est so they get it within 1-3 days that reminder will at least get the yessers to sign faster rather then waitin on them 2 months down the road( if they have to wait 2 months for budget I let them know i am booked 3 months out). |
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